Am I right or wrong for doing this?

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  • #7505
    jambo3
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    I have had a family member in the WMSCOG for about 1.5 years now

    I explain this to other family members and it's like they can not believe it

    So many things are going on, and some of them are financial problems

    like I am sure many others may have.



    Recenetly this family member of ours (also member of the wms) has been asking for money 

    very frequently. More than usual.

    And, i am afraid this money could be going to somebody else for something else, and 

    not for important things such as bills, food, or personal wants and needs.

    BUT… here is the catch

    THIS PERSON WORKS FULL TIME!

    There should be no reason for them to need so much money so frequently.

    So what i am deciding to do

    I was going to just instead of giving them cash to hand

    just take care of the things for them.. bills ect.

    But, it makes no sense.. we're on the same boat. thats just freeing up the money from their job.. the domino effect. 

    I'm thinking about telling this person I will not be there financially

    While they are attending this "organiziation" – we'll call it that for now.

    I just can't take a risk i knowing that i am funding this along with my so hard working family member.



    Am i wrong for this?

    Can anybody relate to this?

  • #65358

    MountainMom
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    It is hard to know exactly what the answer should be here since I don't know all the circumstances, but if your family member earns enough to pay all his/her bills but is not using his/her money to pay them, then I would say, don't give them money and don't pay their bills either.  If you do, it only enables them to keep doing what they are doing, which is make the whole family support the wmscog.  They may have made the poor choice of joining that "organization" and giving them all their own money, but they don't have the right to make  any one else support them.  Especially when you don't agree with the organization and think they are exploiting their members! 

    Sit down with that family member and calmly explain this to him/her, if this person will listen.    Tell other members of the family not to give anything either unless they want to support the wmscog.  Your family member who is in the church doesn't have the right to bleed money from people who want nothing to do with the wmscog. 

    That is my opinion.  The church will take all the money they can get, and I believe their members are encouraged to get it from anyone they can, any way they can.

    #65359

    emil
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    @jambo3
    – under no circumstances should you give the person any money for any reason whatsoever. You might hear a whole lot of sad stories about the financial difficulty the person is in but don't be swayed.

    In fact, tell the person that:

    1. Times are hard and you are having difficulties yourself.

    2. Perhaps s/he should ask the church to help in this time of need.

    3. If he gets help from his church, perhaps you may also ask his church for help.

    4. After all, in the early church, people brought in their tithes and the church distributed the money to those who were in need.

    #65360

    Stained
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    @jambo3
      Helllllllllllllllllllllllllllzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz no ! I wouldn't give that person s h/i/t. <period> 

    #65361

    fedupmom
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    Love your ideas Emil and totally agree with them.

    They will try any way they can to contribute but don’t give them any help in doing so. Assuming they were managing their bills fine before….what has changed other than joining this “organization”????

    We have inadvertently contributed, not with cash, but other means for the “church” through deception, and it makes us want to cringe knowing that we were deceived and helped them without our knowledge.

    Emil offers some great advice…if you were to follow that I’d love to hear the response.

    #65362

    Questioninginla
    Participant

    The family member of the OP needs to feel what the church is doing to them.  If you give them money, then it only extends the amount of time the family member stays in the group, imho.

    #65363

    jambo3
    Participant

    Thanks to everyone giving me advice


    @emil
    – I agree, and i have pointed that out. Usually in times like these

    the church will help you out…

    What does this family member of mine respond to that?

    They tell me that "thats not their job"

    They have a counter for everything man !

    #65364

    emil
    Participant

    jambo3 wrote:


    @emil
    – I agree, and i have pointed that out. Usually in times like these

    the church will help you out…

    What does this family member of mine respond to that?

    They tell me that "thats not their job"

    Then obviously they are nothing like the church Jesus founded because the book of Acts describes that IT IS THEIR JOB.

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