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As wmscog says Ahnshahnhong preached for 37 years from 1948 when he was baptized in SDA(Seventh day adventist) till his death in 1985 +3 years of Jesus Christ’s preaching = 40 years reign of King David (the reason for his qualification of 2nd coming/ the root of david). I want to ask wmscog –
Q1- why then he left SDA and opened a new church?
Q1a-Was SDA doctrine wrong? If yes :Then why he got baptized in a wrong doctrine? Didn’t he know it already being 2nd christ? (Possible Answer)-May be he had no other way because no “true” church existed.
Q1b-So why he took 16 years to open a new church? (Possible Answer)-Maybe because he had to do hard work (Stone carrying as shown in wmscog videos) for a living during the day and had little time in the night to write his books (why din’t Jesus write any book?).
Q1c-So why did God put so much burden on his shoulders? (Not fair. 1st coming christ had only 1 assignment. Poor 2nd coming.)
Q2- Was SDA right? Then why open a new doctrine?
Q3-As Ahnshahnhong started a new church in 1964 and stared preaching new ways of Gospel, then he only scored 1964 to 1985 =21 years. So he comes short 16 years to be eligible for Christship. Oooops!! (Christship is a new word I discovered due to the need on the “new age”). (Possible Solution)-May be they can add sweet 16 years of ‘mother’ who must not be a mother at that age i guess and must be beautiful to qualify to be the bride of the Lamb/Ahnshahnhong/….(somebody please write here the name of Mother’s fist husband)!!
Wow. If you wanted “attention” I would hope that you would have chosen a different activity. It’s really sad. We really have to pray hard (in the name of Jesus, of course) for the brothers & sisters we left behind. They are being abused and don’t even know it and in the name of god (Zhang & Ash, mostly Zhang though). I’m glad we had the good fortune to realize what’s going on. I have taken the experience as a learning one. I will not get caught up in a tangled web like that ever again!
So here is the bottom line. It is very difficult for an ex-member to buy a book. How much more for someone who has never been a member?
Add to that the fact that 144000 state that Ahn wrote so many books and is not willing to specify in which book he wrote that he would reign for 37 years. Very fishy. Anyone here believes Ahn ever said what they claim he said about the 37 years?
I don't believe it because I haven't seen it. But the Missionary does raise a good point. I'm not a quiet ex-member. This is a lovely experiment that I would like to see carried out. So far we know the members will be sold a book. However people like me, such as Diane and Ron, will more than likely be denied a book no matter which Zion we went to. I would like to know if a non-active ex-member would be denied a book. I would also like to know if a non-member would be denied a book. I know the last one is true from experience. Missionary rebuked me for letting a friend of mine [not a member] borrow my Brown Book but I need more recent results.
This way we have our control group [current members] and the experimental groups [non-members, active ex-members, non-active ex-members].
Hypothesis: It is believed that the WMSCOG will deny anyone who is not an active member service to the church "store" to buy any of the "truth books" available even though Ash made it clear that the books written are meant for everyone regardless of affiliation.
@144000 – It appears that even ex-members have never seen that 37 years prediction of Ahn. Have you seen it yourself or only been told about it? Since you are unable to name the book, I guess it is the latter.
emil wrote:
@144000 – It appears that even ex-members have never seen that 37 years prediction of Ahn. Have you seen it yourself or only been told about it? Since you are unable to name the book, I guess it is the latter.
I read in the Green Book Chapter 19 Christ who is to Come in Secret and King David and there's no mention of any number of years the Christ has to preach. He doesn't even mention the number of years David was king.
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Yeah Stained. High noon in stink alley. Mama-San is busy strumming her guitar and singing off key while Ahn's cutout stands there with GP behind it saying in Ahn's voice that he will live for exactly 37 years.
How long has that fish been lying there?
The Unknown wrote:
You better "band me now from this sight", if you don't want to look foolish. All of your false insistance and nonsense opinions will get destroyed by the truth. Stop mis informing the public about the true WMSCOG.
Yeah, we better "BAND" you from this "Sight" <O>V<O>. Except Tyler has more class than that but as a means to an end, it's great to watch you type. Keep typing.
emil wrote:
Yeah Stained. High noon in stink alley. Mama-San is busy strumming her guitar and singing off key while Ahn's cutout stands there with GP behind it saying in Ahn's voice that he will live for exactly 37 years.
How long has that fish been lying there?
LOL. Dude, you are on fire. Keep up the good work. You have earned Staind's "Seal of Approval", a most coveted award here on the site.
"WE LOVE YOU" Unless we kick you out for having "COMMON SENSE".
There's an invisible man in the sky. He watches everything you do every minute of everyday. He has a special list of 10 things that he does not want you to do. If you do any of these 10 things he will send you to a special place he has reserved for people that do any of those things. The place is filled with fire and burning and smoke and anguish and torture and excruciating distress and pain and choking and sorrow and crying…….But he loves you and he needs Money.
Stained wrote:
emil wrote:
Yeah Stained. High noon in stink alley. Mama-San is busy strumming her guitar and singing off key while Ahn's cutout stands there with GP behind it saying in Ahn's voice that he will live for exactly 37 years.
How long has that fish been lying there?
LOL. Dude, you are on fire. Keep up the good work. You have earned Staind's "Seal of Approval", a most coveted award here on the site.
Way to go Emil, you won your first "Stainey" award. Congrats Buddy, I'm proud of you!! Don't let it go to your head, no F-bombs out of you.
emil wrote:
144000 wrote:
Emil
If you can't be bothered to read Fathers books about king davids prophecies of 37 years than I can't help you. Go read and study more before you presume to argue with me. By the way, I'm not sure if you knew, this but all the sermon books were written by Father also.
First of all, Ahn's books are only available to insiders, not Joe public.
144000 went into the inner room sometime around May 31 and hasn't been heard from since….
Who will it be that walks away with the next coveted "Stainey Award' ?
Shall we conclude this thread by confirming that 144000 is unable to offer even a scrap of evidence of the alleged prediction?
Consequently, the root of david claim also gets thrown out.
Emil
I have already explained where you can find the answers, if you are unwilling to leave this place and go to Zion to learn, then you cannot blame me for not wanting to argue with you further here. You have been warned, you have been instructed.
I am not unable to do anything, rather God will provide all wisdom and understanding. I choose not to throw theese pearls before swine, but if you want to make an assumption and then parade it as if you have won some great victory then go ahead.
Let everyone see that you love making assumptions and that is what your arguments consist of.
144000 wrote:
I am not unable to do anything, rather God will provide all wisdom and understanding.
He is showing up all the time to help you but you're adamantly opposed to Him. For example, Proverbs' "seek many counselors".
144000 wrote:
I have already explained where you can find the answers, if you are unwilling to leave this place and go to Zion to learn, then you cannot blame me for not wanting to argue with you further here.
Never heard the warning against going into the inner rooms, eh? You have been warned, you have been instructed.
The same Jesus who says "do not follow them if they say they have found Christ" is the same God who says "They will say here is our God we trusted in him and he saved us". The same Jesus who says there will be false prophets is the same Jesus who says "I am telling you this now so that when it happens you will believe I am He".
Denying false Christs does not preclude one from going into the inner rooms to worship God in truth.
We have the true Christ, but you have had your opinion colored by false Christs before Him.
There is more written in the bible than what you quote, and it is clear which kind of people are finding the narrow gate out of the multitude of christians in the world like the sand by the sea, only one true Zion in the last days is finding the narrow gate.
Here is our God, we trusted in Him and He saved us.
The Spirit and the Bride say Come.
How did the thief on the cross end up in paradise with Jesus the day he and Jesus were crucified….without the saving powers of the PO?
How is it God makes so many mistakes, as pointed out in genny's rfi/info in another thread?
You went in the wide gate, but were told to look after it was narrow.
Poor Simpleton. I almost feel sorry for you. There is a lesson for you somewhere. I hope you find it.
Questioninginla,
Because the thief personally asked God who is Jesus for it, and God who is Jesus granted it.
Did you personally speak to Christ in the flesh and ask him for entrance into heaven? No? Then you should realize that God's grace extends to whom he pleases according to his word.
The same Jesus who said "today you will be in paradise with me" is the same Jesus who said "he who does not eat my flesh and blood has no life in him" you should understand what each of them means in context.
There is a lesson for you somewhere, I hope you don't neglect verses when they become inconvenient for you.
Realizing the verses you have neglected is also my anwser to the idea that "God makes Mistakes".
144000 wrote:
I hope you don't neglect verses when they become inconvenient for you.
This one has set the bar high for himself.
Methinks Renita shall be the hot knife and you, the butter.
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