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As wmscog says Ahnshahnhong preached for 37 years from 1948 when he was baptized in SDA(Seventh day adventist) till his death in 1985 +3 years of Jesus Christ’s preaching = 40 years reign of King David (the reason for his qualification of 2nd coming/ the root of david). I want to ask wmscog –
Q1- why then he left SDA and opened a new church?
Q1a-Was SDA doctrine wrong? If yes :Then why he got baptized in a wrong doctrine? Didn’t he know it already being 2nd christ? (Possible Answer)-May be he had no other way because no “true” church existed.
Q1b-So why he took 16 years to open a new church? (Possible Answer)-Maybe because he had to do hard work (Stone carrying as shown in wmscog videos) for a living during the day and had little time in the night to write his books (why din’t Jesus write any book?).
Q1c-So why did God put so much burden on his shoulders? (Not fair. 1st coming christ had only 1 assignment. Poor 2nd coming.)
Q2- Was SDA right? Then why open a new doctrine?
Q3-As Ahnshahnhong started a new church in 1964 and stared preaching new ways of Gospel, then he only scored 1964 to 1985 =21 years. So he comes short 16 years to be eligible for Christship. Oooops!! (Christship is a new word I discovered due to the need on the “new age”). (Possible Solution)-May be they can add sweet 16 years of ‘mother’ who must not be a mother at that age i guess and must be beautiful to qualify to be the bride of the Lamb/Ahnshahnhong/….(somebody please write here the name of Mother’s fist husband)!!
I mean, does it really matter how many days Yeshua was In the tomb? To me, what matters is if he is God. Is he God or is Ahang or Zhang God?
The whole issue of 37/21 years and 72 /36 hours is relevant here only if the 40 years is relevant.
The whole issue of 37/21 years and 72 /36 hours is relevant here only if the 40 years is relevant.
Simon wrote:
Never said he had to be in the tomb 72 hours tbats his claim to substantiate
Absolute NONSENSE. Matthew 12:40: For as Jonah was 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the son of man "WILL" be 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth.
Simon, how many hours are 3 days and 3 nights? To the "T" it is 72 hours. Will you also deny that?
Simon wrote:
Never said he had to be in the tomb 72 hours tbats his claim to substantiate
Absolute NONSENSE. Matthew 12:40: For as Jonah was 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the son of man "WILL" be 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth.
Simon, how many hours are 3 days and 3 nights? To the "T" it is 72 hours. Will you also deny that?
Sarah2013 wrote:
1004 wrote:
Yes dummies. You guys prove you are "dummies" because you fall for this, excuse my term "cr*p". Adultry? lolz you have evidence? No. Divorce? lolz, again show me. You defile yourselves with satan's army and slaves of the Sun God. Trampling the true words of God and God Themselves with disgusting and shamefull lies and deceit. Yes dummies..
A scam is a scam, period. It's a money making business. This site is fool of proof plus we each have our own real life story. I'm cool being called anything by Wmscog. I am not the type to stress that. I can take what I dish out.
Money making Scam??? How can you believe that nonsense?? Let me ask you a question, if the WMSCOG is really a money making scam to weezel much money out of people, then why use a "Korean Jesus"? Why use a doctrine that 99.7% of the 7billion people in the world won't agree with? How much money is made off the name of "Jesus" these days? How much money is made off of Crosses and Crucifixes, Idols and candles of Virgin Mary and Saints etc…??? Literally that is a Billion Dollar Industry. Statically, 2/3 of the world is Catholic. As it is written Revelation 18:2-3…Fallen Fallen is Babylon the Great…and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries.
If you can not answer this question, don't make a comment like that ever again. For your own sake. I'm not even trying to be funny. It makes you sound very ignorant. And I'm not trying to insult you. Regardless if you believe WMSCOG or not, that comment is nonsense.
And by the way in your post that i quoted, you used the word "fool" you should have used the word full. Just an FYI
Sarah2013 wrote:
1004 wrote:
Yes dummies. You guys prove you are "dummies" because you fall for this, excuse my term "cr*p". Adultry? lolz you have evidence? No. Divorce? lolz, again show me. You defile yourselves with satan's army and slaves of the Sun God. Trampling the true words of God and God Themselves with disgusting and shamefull lies and deceit. Yes dummies..
A scam is a scam, period. It's a money making business. This site is fool of proof plus we each have our own real life story. I'm cool being called anything by Wmscog. I am not the type to stress that. I can take what I dish out.
Money making Scam??? How can you believe that nonsense?? Let me ask you a question, if the WMSCOG is really a money making scam to weezel much money out of people, then why use a "Korean Jesus"? Why use a doctrine that 99.7% of the 7billion people in the world won't agree with? How much money is made off the name of "Jesus" these days? How much money is made off of Crosses and Crucifixes, Idols and candles of Virgin Mary and Saints etc…??? Literally that is a Billion Dollar Industry. Statically, 2/3 of the world is Catholic. As it is written Revelation 18:2-3…Fallen Fallen is Babylon the Great…and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries.
If you can not answer this question, don't make a comment like that ever again. For your own sake. I'm not even trying to be funny. It makes you sound very ignorant. And I'm not trying to insult you. Regardless if you believe WMSCOG or not, that comment is nonsense.
And by the way in your post that i quoted, you used the word "fool" you should have used the word full. Just an FYI
Well The Unknown, I believe Scientology is a money making scam, but they don't use jesus, not even the bible and business is good! Unification church for me is also a money making scam and they do use the bible and use a 2nd Coming, and business is also good. So I guess WMSCOG could have checked those business models!
Well The Unknown, I believe Scientology is a money making scam, but they don't use jesus, not even the bible and business is good! Unification church for me is also a money making scam and they do use the bible and use a 2nd Coming, and business is also good. So I guess WMSCOG could have checked those business models!
Scientology makes you pay money to join, and you have to pay money to advance. Does the WMSCOG do that? NOPE. The Unification church was exposed for their money scandals and even their founder did time in prison for it.
Here is another thing that none of you slanderers can answer, if the WMSCOG is guilty of TAX FRAUD in the "Millions" like you slanderers claim, then how come President Barak Obama, and the UN didn't catch it? Do you really believe the President wouldn't know he gave a Call of service award to a money laundering organization who owes millions in bad taxes? You slanderers also say that the WMSCOG "nominated themselves and cheated" to receive that Presidential Award. And it wasn't hard earned. Really??? LOL And the president and the whole white house organization that was associated with WMSCOG receiving that award, just missed that one too, huh, and blindly gave it to us?? The catholic church was exposed by the Media and Government for their scandals, so was the mormon church, so was the unification church. However, WMSCOG is being praised and elevated by the governments (plural) in all parts of the world. I guess thats also Part of the WMSCOG's big money making scandal too, huh LOL
No, it's prophecy being fulfilled. Isaiah 62:7…give Him(God) no rest; til he(God) establishes Jerusalem and makes HER the PRAISE OF THE EARTH
Praise be to Christ Ahnsahnghong and Heavenly Mother.
Scientology makes you pay money to join, and you have to pay money to advance. Does the WMSCOG do that? NOPE. The Unification church was exposed for their money scandals and even their founder did time in prison for it.
Here is another thing that none of you slanderers can answer, if the WMSCOG is guilty of TAX FRAUD in the "Millions" like you slanderers claim, then how come President Barak Obama, and the UN didn't catch it? Do you really believe the President wouldn't know he gave a Call of service award to a money laundering organization who owes millions in bad taxes? You slanderers also say that the WMSCOG "nominated themselves and cheated" to receive that Presidential Award. And it wasn't hard earned. Really??? LOL And the president and the whole white house organization that was associated with WMSCOG receiving that award, just missed that one too, huh, and blindly gave it to us?? The catholic church was exposed by the Media and Government for their scandals, so was the mormon church, so was the unification church. However, WMSCOG is being praised and elevated by the governments (plural) in all parts of the world. I guess thats also Part of the WMSCOG's big money making scandal too, huh LOL
No, it's prophecy being fulfilled. Isaiah 62:7…give Him(God) no rest; til he(God) establishes Jerusalem and makes HER the PRAISE OF THE EARTH
Praise be to Christ Ahnsahnghong and Heavenly Mother.
Simon wrote:
Also i should point out scripture doesn't say only god can restore Passover. on the contrary it shows two sinners do so…
further wmscog doesn't keep the seventh month biblicaly so the argument against Armstrong works against you
Simon show some proof. And if you're talking about that bogus calender you guys have on this website, you better think again. And I'll prove it is bogus. The biblical calander is based off the moon, and the cycle of the moon is never the same. So my question to you is how many years does the actual Biblical or lunar calendar take in order to reset itself? Your lack of knowledge will leave you with no answer. And if you find the answer you will clearly see that WMSCOG keeps the feast correctly according to the LUNAR CALENDAR, or the ROTATION of the MOON. Not according to the Jewish calendar. The actual Lunar Calendar and the Jewish calendar are very, very, very seldom identical. Even the Jews admit know that their calendar is only 100% accurate every 19 years, because thats when they reset theres.
Do your homework before you quote nonsense. Thank you very much
Simon wrote:
Also i should point out scripture doesn't say only god can restore Passover. on the contrary it shows two sinners do so…
further wmscog doesn't keep the seventh month biblicaly so the argument against Armstrong works against you
Simon show some proof. And if you're talking about that bogus calender you guys have on this website, you better think again. And I'll prove it is bogus. The biblical calander is based off the moon, and the cycle of the moon is never the same. So my question to you is how many years does the actual Biblical or lunar calendar take in order to reset itself? Your lack of knowledge will leave you with no answer. And if you find the answer you will clearly see that WMSCOG keeps the feast correctly according to the LUNAR CALENDAR, or the ROTATION of the MOON. Not according to the Jewish calendar. The actual Lunar Calendar and the Jewish calendar are very, very, very seldom identical. Even the Jews admit know that their calendar is only 100% accurate every 19 years, because thats when they reset theres.
Do your homework before you quote nonsense. Thank you very much
Lets talk about the Call to Service Award…first of all it can only be given to US citizens. So some US citizens who happen to be members of WMSCOG did the required volunteer hours. At the time the award is given they only ask what name should be printed on the award. So the church didn’t technically receive the award. And for two President Obama doesn’t hand out the awards…it is done by a sub committee. Zhang Gil jah couldn’t have legitimately received that award because she isn’t an American citizen. The award is also only given to individuals…not churches or organizations. Check your facts on that one Unknown
Lets talk about the Call to Service Award…first of all it can only be given to US citizens. So some US citizens who happen to be members of WMSCOG did the required volunteer hours. At the time the award is given they only ask what name should be printed on the award. So the church didn’t technically receive the award. And for two President Obama doesn’t hand out the awards…it is done by a sub committee. Zhang Gil jah couldn’t have legitimately received that award because she isn’t an American citizen. The award is also only given to individuals…not churches or organizations. Check your facts on that one Unknown
The Unknown wrote:
Scientology makes you pay money to join, and you have to pay money to advance. Does the WMSCOG do that? NOPE. The Unification church was exposed for their money scandals and even their founder did time in prison for it.
Here is another thing that none of you slanderers can answer, if the WMSCOG is guilty of TAX FRAUD in the "Millions" like you slanderers claim, then how come President Barak Obama, and the UN didn't catch it? Do you really believe the President wouldn't know he gave a Call of service award to a money laundering organization who owes millions in bad taxes? You slanderers also say that the WMSCOG "nominated themselves and cheated" to receive that Presidential Award. And it wasn't hard earned. Really??? LOL And the president and the whole white house organization that was associated with WMSCOG receiving that award, just missed that one too, huh, and blindly gave it to us?? The catholic church was exposed by the Media and Government for their scandals, so was the mormon church, so was the unification church. However, WMSCOG is being praised and elevated by the governments (plural) in all parts of the world. I guess thats also Part of the WMSCOG's big money making scandal too, huh LOL
No, it's prophecy being fulfilled. Isaiah 62:7…give Him(God) no rest; til he(God) establishes Jerusalem and makes HER the PRAISE OF THE EARTH
The President doesn't have the foggiest idea you even exist. Even if he did, all he would have seen is the fake smiles and the fake hand shakes and the fake bowing and a couple of Bags of Trash being piled up which have absolutely ZERO IMPACT on the environment except for temporary aesthetics. There always seems to be a Camera around when these great works are performed, doesn't there ? Just like in North Korea. I think Jesus said not to boast.
The U.N is a useless conglomerate of Nations set up to intentionally pilfer the wealth of the United States of America. <period>
By the way, that praise of the earth stuff, how's that working for ya ?
Praise be to Michele.
I will now pause while 1004 <aka> fromtheotherside looks up the big words I"ve used.
The Unknown wrote:
Scientology makes you pay money to join, and you have to pay money to advance. Does the WMSCOG do that? NOPE. The Unification church was exposed for their money scandals and even their founder did time in prison for it.
Here is another thing that none of you slanderers can answer, if the WMSCOG is guilty of TAX FRAUD in the "Millions" like you slanderers claim, then how come President Barak Obama, and the UN didn't catch it? Do you really believe the President wouldn't know he gave a Call of service award to a money laundering organization who owes millions in bad taxes? You slanderers also say that the WMSCOG "nominated themselves and cheated" to receive that Presidential Award. And it wasn't hard earned. Really??? LOL And the president and the whole white house organization that was associated with WMSCOG receiving that award, just missed that one too, huh, and blindly gave it to us?? The catholic church was exposed by the Media and Government for their scandals, so was the mormon church, so was the unification church. However, WMSCOG is being praised and elevated by the governments (plural) in all parts of the world. I guess thats also Part of the WMSCOG's big money making scandal too, huh LOL
No, it's prophecy being fulfilled. Isaiah 62:7…give Him(God) no rest; til he(God) establishes Jerusalem and makes HER the PRAISE OF THE EARTH
The President doesn't have the foggiest idea you even exist. Even if he did, all he would have seen is the fake smiles and the fake hand shakes and the fake bowing and a couple of Bags of Trash being piled up which have absolutely ZERO IMPACT on the environment except for temporary aesthetics. There always seems to be a Camera around when these great works are performed, doesn't there ? Just like in North Korea. I think Jesus said not to boast.
The U.N is a useless conglomerate of Nations set up to intentionally pilfer the wealth of the United States of America. <period>
By the way, that praise of the earth stuff, how's that working for ya ?
Praise be to Michele.
I will now pause while 1004 <aka> fromtheotherside looks up the big words I"ve used.
OK Stained… Let me make myself more clear as is said before:You slanderers also say that the WMSCOG "nominated themselves and cheated" to receive that Presidential Award. And it wasn't hard earned. Really??? LOL And the president and the whole white house organization that was associated with WMSCOG receiving that award, just missed that one too, huh, and blindly gave it to us?? The catholic church was exposed by the Media and Government for their scandals, so was the mormon church, so was the unification church. However, WMSCOG is being praised and elevated by the governments (plural) in all parts of the world. I guess thats also Part of the WMSCOG's big money making scandal too, huh LOL
So are your saying that the White House ORGANIZATION, meaning those who are affiliated with giving that award, just blindly gave it to Someone who is not an american citizen? My point is that these accusations are nonsense. As is said earlier: The catholic church was exposed by the Media and Government for their scandals, so was the mormon church, so was the unification church. However, WMSCOG is being praised and elevated by the governments (plural) in all parts of the world. I guess thats also Part of the WMSCOG's big money making scandal too, huh LOL . For this you have no response.
Fake smiles, fake hand shakes and a couple of trash bags huh?? Check your facts Sained
It's pretty hard to fake that.
OK Stained… Let me make myself more clear as is said before:You slanderers also say that the WMSCOG "nominated themselves and cheated" to receive that Presidential Award. And it wasn't hard earned. Really??? LOL And the president and the whole white house organization that was associated with WMSCOG receiving that award, just missed that one too, huh, and blindly gave it to us?? The catholic church was exposed by the Media and Government for their scandals, so was the mormon church, so was the unification church. However, WMSCOG is being praised and elevated by the governments (plural) in all parts of the world. I guess thats also Part of the WMSCOG's big money making scandal too, huh LOL
So are your saying that the White House ORGANIZATION, meaning those who are affiliated with giving that award, just blindly gave it to Someone who is not an american citizen? My point is that these accusations are nonsense. As is said earlier: The catholic church was exposed by the Media and Government for their scandals, so was the mormon church, so was the unification church. However, WMSCOG is being praised and elevated by the governments (plural) in all parts of the world. I guess thats also Part of the WMSCOG's big money making scandal too, huh LOL . For this you have no response.
Fake smiles, fake hand shakes and a couple of trash bags huh?? Check your facts Sained
It's pretty hard to fake that.
Stained wrote:
The President doesn't have the foggiest idea you even exist. Even if he did, all he would have seen is the fake smiles and the fake hand shakes and the fake bowing and a couple of Bags of Trash being piled up which have absolutely ZERO IMPACT on the environment except for temporary aesthetics. There always seems to be a Camera around when these great works are performed, doesn't there ? Just like in North Korea. I think Jesus said not to boast.
Stained sounds Jealous… or mad that you're not receiving the glory.
Is that how we preach the gospel? I think NOT. No matter what, people like yourself are still slandering Good Deeds. Whether you believe WMSCOG or not, how can you find a way to slander good deeds??Who's boasting the WMSCOG??? Oh thats right, the Media, Amir Dossal of the UN, news stations etc… Regardless if you like it or not, it's being done. God came in the Flesh and God is only bound by the Flesh and the rules of this world, while doing so. Jerusalem being made praise of the world is working out great for me. Too bad you're to busy finding fault in good deeds. If your house burned down or your home was effected by a hurricane, wouldn't you want help? If you were a Town Mayor or City councilmen wouldnt you want help cleaning up your streets? If you were an enviornmealist, wouldnt you want help cleaning up the enviornment such as oil spills and dirty water and planting trees. Yes you would. Thats what the WMSCOG went out and did. How can you find fault in that, and not only fault, you bad mouth those who did it. "Fake smiles and Fake bows and Fake hand shakes" Shame on you.
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