Ahnsahnghong Travels to China?

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  • #6809
    Emily
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    Shimon,

    I've heard members talk about a video that the wmscog is showing its members where Ahn is said to have traveled on a train to China and was never heard from again.  Have you seen this video?  Has anyone else seen this video?

  • #44002

    Simon
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    That sounds like The Sacrifice of Heavenly Father (or something like that I do not remember the exact title) That scene was a metaphore for his death and spirit's ascension to Heacen leaving the gospel work to mother. He explained he was going to China as a metaphore. At that time most churches in China had to be house churches because of the way the Chinese government treated religion and he was explaining how the gospel work would progess internationally with house churches. But he never really left Korea, as I understand it he died at his house.

    #44003

    Joshua
    Participant

    That would make China a metaphor for Heaven. What?

    #44004

    Rahab
    Participant

    Thank you, Shimon, for your answer. 

     

    #44005

    Emily
    Participant

    shimon wrote:

    That sounds like The Sacrifice of Heavenly Father (or something like that I do not remember the exact title) That scene was a metaphore for his death and spirit's ascension to Heacen leaving the gospel work to mother. He explained he was going to China as a metaphore. At that time most churches in China had to be house churches because of the way the Chinese government treated religion and he was explaining how the gospel work would progess internationally with house churches. But he never really left Korea, as I understand it he died at his house.

     

    Shimon,

    Is this video available for me to watch on YouTube or anywhere else online?  I have heard a lot about this video and I would like to watch it.  Also, can you verify with one of your deacons or someone at the wmscog that would know, where Ahn actually died?  Were you told that he died at his house?  There has been a lot of talk about his death and I would like to know the details as you have learned them.

    Thanks so much for your input.

    #44006

    Simon
    Participant

    The train was imagery for the movie to represent his leaving. Going abroad certainly meant Heaven and China meant laying the way for house churches.

    #44007

    Simon
    Participant

    It doesn't need to represent a thing. His going to China and going on a train were seperate metaphores.

    #44008

    Simon
    Participant

    Specious reasoning.

    Even if it were clearly defined the train was the way he was going to china in the movie not every part of a metaphore always has a meaning.

    #44009

    Joshua
    Participant

    So everyone has to guess what’s a metaphor and what’s literal. Pretty vague isn’t it? Maybe Ahn in the video is a metaphor for false prophet. Sorry, that would be a literal translation.

    #44010

    Simon
    Participant

    Now you are just being immature.

    #44011

    Joshua
    Participant

    Ok, then lets grow up. Ahn was a false prophet and Zahng is a living and breathing deciever and false prophet. Grow up, see the evidence and stop arguing with the truth.

    #44012

    genny
    Participant

    shimon wrote:

    The train was imagery for the movie to represent his leaving. Going abroad certainly meant Heaven and China meant laying the way for house churches.

    How do you tell what is metaphor and what is real when you watch those videos?  (I wish it were available to watch so I could tell better what you are talking about.)

    #44013

    Simon
    Participant

    For one it was explained what China and abroad meant and explained he never really took.a train

    #44014

    Simon
    Participant

    lol

    #44015

    Simon
    Participant

    you do realize he never actually left south korea

    #44016

    Simon
    Participant

    The movie never says the train is to china. Remember Seoul and Busan and both landlocked cities if he were to take a "slow boat to china" he'd need to take a train to get to the sea furthermore if DPRK must mean something so must the steam that powers the train and the upholstry on the seating and the time of day he left on the train and how many cars were on the train and which car he boarded and we could go on and on with insignificant details and insist in meaning.

    #44017

    WHOAMI
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    shimon wrote:

    The movie never says the train is to china. Remember Seoul and Busan and both landlocked cities if he were to take a "slow boat to china" he'd need to take a train to get to the sea furthermore if DPRK must mean something so must the steam that powers the train and the upholstry on the seating and the time of day he left on the train and how many cars were on the train and which car he boarded and we could go on and on with insignificant details and insist in meaning.

     SHIMON, i was told he handed mother all his books and notes and he left to China to preach

    #44018

    WHOAMI
    Participant

    loocpoc wrote:

    Im still trying to figure out how he got China by train if the train didnt go through the DPRK…

     i dunno maybe it was a spiritual train ๐Ÿ™‚

    #44019

    Emily
    Participant

    WHOAMI wrote:

    loocpoc wrote:

    Im still trying to figure out how he got China by train if the train didnt go through the DPRK…

     i dunno maybe it was a spiritual train ๐Ÿ™‚

    When all else fails, say it has a "spiritual meaning"…LOL!!!

    #44020

    ttr
    Participant

    WHOAMI wrote:

    loocpoc wrote:

    Im still trying to figure out how he got China by train if the train didnt go through the DPRK…

     i dunno maybe it was a spiritual train ๐Ÿ™‚

    lol!!

    #44021

    ttr
    Participant

    loocpoc wrote:

    Im still trying to figure out how he got China by train if the train didnt go through the DPRK…

    yep, there was no train.  yet another mistake in their fable

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