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I am trying to infiltrate a zion here in my city (as some of you know already). Since I am new to this kind of thing, I want to ask for advice on what I should do if I do manage to get inside. Should I tell them that I am already a member or should I pretend to be a "new recruit"? Which is safer? Any suggestions?
A little bit of info. This just happened last week.
Me: Brother, the wmscog in my area is still not contacting me. Are you sure that they are operating in this city?
Bro: Yes, we have a zion there. I already gave our deacon your contact number, just wait for their call.
(After a few minutes) Bro: They are asking for your address, give me the address of your boarding house.
Me: What?! Why? Uhmm… I can't do that. They can't come here, outsiders aren't allowed to go inside. I might get scolded by my landlord.
Bro: Don't worry about that, they'll just preach to your landlord too. He'll be afraid once he sees the Bible.
Me: No way! I might get kicked out if I disobey the rules. And WHY would he be afraid of the bible? Do you think people are some kind of monsters to be afraid of "holy" objects?
Bro: C'mon just give me the address. They won't come inside, they just need it so that they'll know where to get you. *this statement scared me a little*
Me: That's why I said that they just give me the address of their church and I'll come to them if I have the time! Why are they making things so complicated?
In the end, I just gave a fake address. LOL. Didn't know what else to do and I surely don't want to give them my current location.
that's so weird Eli, but you should have just said NO I don't give out my address just like that, lets meet perhaps at the library or coffee shop. They would have had to respect that. Maybe they are trying to track you down and see if your address matches the location your signing in from on your computer to come to this site. LOL I'm not kidding I heared they had members who's talent is hacking computers but don't really know how true that is.
number 2. If when you got baptised they took your picture and have your real name, then yes sooner or later they will know it's you, so I would rather (if i where you) go in the same way, or you will really blow your cover if they caught it that you lied. Besides your brother can identify you.
number 3 I 'm so surprise they have taken long to contact you, usually as for my case it was the same day, but I refuse and my friend is the one giving me lessons every now and then, and leting me read the books, so I can feel more comfortable when I go and have a heads up on things.
number 4 they monitor this site, so perhaps they are telling everyone in zion not to bring in people who are asking to know more about the studies. stay always 2 steps ahead.
Go in with honesty. You really do want to know more and father and mother. You really do want to understand the religion more. If you live in a gated community or in a run down neighborhood, chances are they won’t come knocking. If you catch people talking about the bible in the open, they might be wmscog members. Politely interrupt and ask if they believe in elohim. If they do, you’ve found them! They will gladly go with you to zion to study more.
They always ask for addresses I doubt its to see if its the same person as signed in here.
I mean..it can’t be that hard to find me! Lol
Elie I think you should drop the whole infiltration idea. Gives me bad vibes.
I agree with emil. Elie, you don't need to go into their cult to find out what these folks are teaching. They have a website and there is a link to it from here. Phyically going into the lions den is not a good idea! It's one thing to be thrown to the lions and a completely different thing to just walk into a dangerous situation. There is plenty of material you can research outside of this cult without having to place yourself in a compromising situation. Please reconsider this idea.
Joshua, you probably have not read what Elie had said earlier. The idea was to innocently present to her brother differences in preaching between different locations to help him to see the contradictions without her having to come right out with it.
But even so, knowing how they control minds, and having read about people who were supposedly strong in scripture and were still trapped, I would strongly recommend not to play with your soul.
Elie, I have been to their "church" several times, as have other members of our family who would never consider being members. I never felt like I was in danger phsically. As long as you just observe and listen, it's OK, at least where I am. However, their Zions are all over the world, and I know it is not always as safe in some places.
It has been my experience so far, that if I am not confrontational, I am perfectly safe there. The only thing is it is hard for me to listen to their B.S. and not call them on it. My poor relative who is a member, on the other hand, has been told by the wms that he cannot so much as enter another church because all other churches are evil. I guess they forgot about the "though I walk through the valley of death" part in the Bible. God knows my faith and loyalty to Him are strong, and he knows my intentions for going there.
MountainMom wrote:
My poor relative who is a member, on the other hand, has been told by the wms that he cannot so much as enter another church because all other churches are evil. I guess they forgot about the "though I walk through the valley of death" part in the Bible. God knows my faith and loyalty to Him are strong, and he knows my intentions for going there.
Yeah and here they are very wishy washy on entering "babylons" times even church leaders have and other times they say never go its crazy I cannot believe I didn't notice it at the time.
how where the church leaders entering babylon churhes Simon, What are you talking about?
IDK the exact stories I only know they went into them for some kind of meeting
Simon wrote:
IDK the exact stories I only know they went into them for some kind of meeting
when, and where??? this year, India perhaps…..Simon why do you say you can't believe you never noticed that.
2010 2011 idk details?
Oh and I live in Central United States
Simon wrote:
MountainMom wrote:
My poor relative who is a member, on the other hand, has been told by the wms that he cannot so much as enter another church because all other churches are evil. I guess they forgot about the "though I walk through the valley of death" part in the Bible. God knows my faith and loyalty to Him are strong, and he knows my intentions for going there.
Yeah and here they are very wishy washy on entering "babylons" times even church leaders have and other times they say never go its crazy I cannot believe I didn't notice it at the time.
LMAO ! They are the biggest Babylon EVER.
Stained wrote:
Simon wrote:
MountainMom wrote:
My poor relative who is a member, on the other hand, has been told by the wms that he cannot so much as enter another church because all other churches are evil. I guess they forgot about the "though I walk through the valley of death" part in the Bible. God knows my faith and loyalty to Him are strong, and he knows my intentions for going there.
Yeah and here they are very wishy washy on entering "babylons" times even church leaders have and other times they say never go its crazy I cannot believe I didn't notice it at the time.
LMAO ! They are the biggest Babylon EVER.
Atleast up there
I also wanted and still do want to enter the pitt and try to rescue as many souls as I can. In my spiritual travels involving this cult I have come across several guides. Each one of them has advised me against the idea. If you intend on doing this DON’T GO ALONE! It’s not that these folks will cause you bodily harm because it is unlikely that they would. Most of the people are nice folks truly seeking to do the right thing. There are stronger forces at work here. We do not fight against flesh and blood but against pricipalities and powers. DON’T TRY THIS ALONE!
renita.payno wrote:
Go in with honesty. You really do want to know more and father and mother. You really do want to understand the religion more. If you live in a gated community or in a run down neighborhood, chances are they won't come knocking. If you catch people talking about the bible in the open, they might be wmscog members. Politely interrupt and ask if they believe in elohim. If they do, you've found them! They will gladly go with you to zion to study more.
Their elohim is the equivalent of Mickey and Minnie Mouse.
Are you saying their Elohim is cute and caring like Mickey and Minnie?
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