7 signs you are in a cult

  • #71558

    MountainMom
    Participant

    These are all good indicators.  It should be noted that not all factors have to be present in any list of indicators in order to be concerned that a group may be a cult (although I would say any single one of the list presented in M&M's list would be a giant red flag.)  If several are present, then it is a good idea to really research the group 

    There are a lot of other lists I've seen as well.  

    #71559

    MountainMom
    Participant

    Another thing that is on several lists is "The group has a flesh and blood leader that they worship."  I know that seems obvious to some, but I do understand how groups work their way up to getting recruits to believe such a thing.  It involves not revealing this bit of rather hard to swallow information up front, but waiting till the recruit is well indoctrinated.  I know this was the hardest for my so to swallow.  But swallow it he did, eventually. 

    As I understand it, there are at least 100 leaders of cults presently that claim they are a living God or Jesus Christ himself.  They all have followers that believe this.  What the Wms is promoting isn't original by any means.  Darn good way to make money, isn't it? 

    I remember a Wms member (Most likely a title holder in the church) sparring with me on this site several years ago, especially when I talked about how much money members are expected to give, even if their spouse disagrees.  That guy said that I was too concerned with money.  Yet, the major focus of this "church" is to get all they can in money and possessions out of their members. How completely hypocritical.

    I was way more concerned with how much trouble it causes in marriages where one spouse is a member and one is not.  Arguing about money is one of the major problems in marriages.  Yet, I thought I clearly heard John Power say that they are all for family unity.  Well, how about including the non member spouse in decisions that concern their financial stability and the welfare of their marriage?  That might promote unity.  Oh, I guess that isn't the kind of unity they want.

     How can a guy get up there and deny in front of a camera that they cause family problems?  Unbelievable.  Yes, John Power is unbelievable to say the least.

    #71560

    jw03550
    Participant

    Mayor and Mike wrote:

    1. Opposing critical thinking

    A thought:

    #1 – almost always specious (having one meaning on the surface but a different purpose hiding behind it.  one that supports group cohesiveness).  The devil tempts us, pulls us away, wants to attack what we know is true, and so on.  Information that is not from the group is bad, tests our beliefs.  Unfortunately this will make sense to the believer and family and friends that want to help only push themselves further away when they try to shed light on what has happened.  Then the group/member gets to say that it is the family (or counselors) that are causing the troubleTHE LOGIC OF THE GROUP IS LOCKED UP / AIRTIGHT/REALISTICALLY CANT BE TESTEd

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