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Hi, I was hoping someone who could read Korean could help me out here and confirm the month Ahn was baptised? It apparently says on the ncpcog website somewhere. The website I got this information from is here: http://encountering-ahnsahnghong.blogspot.co.uk/2011/12/ahnsahnghongs-birthday-baptism-and.html
Interestingly, the exact month is very difficult to find anywhere- and is suspiciously not even mentioned on the official english.watv.org website! They list only the year of things such as Ahn’s birth, baptism, death etc but not the month (the month of everything else far more trivial, such as a new church being established in a random place has the month, why not Ahn’s baptism!)
Now, this is an important piece of information because if it really does say on the ncpcog website Ahn was baptised Dec. 16, 1948 and died Feb. 25, 1985, then this leaves a ministry of 36 years, 2 months, 9 days. Not 37 years!
To quote from the website I sourced this from โWe know they mean the Gregorian Dec. 16, and not the lunar 12th month, 16th day, because that would be January 26 [for his baptism]. Jan. 26, 1948 would be too early because Israel did not declare independence until May 14, 1948.โ
Check out my video about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnQkDzxEhkY
Have you used google translate? If it says Dec 16th, that's still too early because he didn't turn 30 until Dec 27th 1948.
Yea, I went to the site and realized that. The Korean word for baptism and christening is used in the sentence next to the 1948 date. I added it to my group on FB. If you haven't checked it out already, you should. If you don't mind, I would appreciate it if you would join the group. But I understand completely if you don't want to. I've commented on their YT videos asking them to upload a version of their videos with english subtitles. YT sucks at translating. Lol. It's so odd though.. I never see Koreans here. I never knew about Korea[ns] until I went to the WMSCOG. I used to see so many of them while I was a member. But now, I don't see any of them. If I run into one, I'll ask him/her what it says. =)
Actually, the 12th month of the lunar calendar is Adar. Dec. 1, 1918 was the 27th of Kislev which is the 9th month of the lunar calendar. The date Wiki gives is in the 10th month, Tevet. Where does the WMSCOG say specifically 1st day, 12th month? That's February 13, 1918..
Seriously, who gives a Rats Ass when he was born or Baptised ?
Go'lo fedo'ree'cha
He was born on Dec 1st… and Dec 25th was the anniversary of his birth. The WMSCOG uses the lunar calendar to keep track of any of their dates which is why every year it's different. And it doesn't say 1st day 12th month. It says Dec 1st. Even if it did, they were referring to the gregorian calendar.
Don't pay that Jesus imposter any mind. S/He is normally fairly rude.
renita.payno wrote:
Actually, the 12th month of the lunar calendar is Adar. Dec. 1, 1918 was the 27th of Kislev which is the 9th month of the lunar calendar. The date Wiki gives is in the 10th month, Tevet. Where does the WMSCOG say specifically 1st day, 12th month? That's February 13, 1918..
They use the Chinese Lunar Calendar not the Biblical Lunar Calendar for ASH's birth this is why they say the wrong month number by the Hebrew Calendar.
That doesn't make sense Shimon.. because Dec 1st 1918 & 25 Dec 2011 are the same day in the Heb cal..
Dvc wrote:
Hi, I was hoping someone who could read Korean could help me out here and confirm the month Ahn was baptised? It apparently says on the ncpcog website somewhere. The website I got this information from is here: http://encountering-ahnsahnghong.blogspot.co.uk/2011/12/ahnsahnghongs-birthday-baptism-and.html
Hi Dvc. That was my website. ๐ Glad you found it.
There are a few difficulties when trying to work with these calendars.
For one, when they say Ahn was born on "Dec. 1" it's really a mistranslation. It's the 1st day of the 12th month on the Chinese (Asian) lunar calendar, but when you try to put that into an automatic translator it tells us Dec. 1, because in English our twelf month is called December. It was pretty confusing for me until I realized the translation mistake. The correct birthdate according to the Gregorian calendar is Jan. 13, 1918.
Another thing is that the Asian lunar calendar and the Hebrew lunar calendar start their first month in different months. The Asian around February and the Jewish around March/April. So 1st day 12th month is not the same for each.
Also, I haven't done any of this figuring with the Hebrew calendar because I didn't think the wmscog would recognize it as valid, since they say the Jews haven't kept their own calendar right. (Even though sometimes wmscog feast dates do match up with Jewish feast dates.)
But if you did, you'd need to convert these dates:
Jan. 13, 1918 (birth)
Dec. 16, 1948 (baptism)
Feb. 25, 1985 (death)
In both Asian lunar and Gregorian figuring he was 30 at baptism (but almost 31), and preached for just over 36 years (not really enough to round to 37).
He was born January 13 1918 not Decemer 1 1918
turns out Dec 25 2012 was 11/13/4710 Chinese so we still have a problem http://www.prokerala.com/general/calendar/chinesecalendar.php?month=12&year=2012&sb=1&lang=en
Wasn't it in 2011 when they celebrated on Dec. 25?
And if we go by the Hebrew
13 January 1918 = <strong style=”font-weight: bold; “>29th of Tevet, 5678
Tue, 25 December 2012 = <strong style=”font-weight: bold; “>12th of Tevet, 5773
so if they are using a consistent calendar it isn't chiene or hebrew
genny wrote:
Wasn't it in 2011 when they celebrated on Dec. 25?
doh! you're right HAHA
12/1/4709 and 29th of Kislev, 5772
I was thinking last one and I left in 2012 (just forgot I left before not after ๐ )
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