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"The World Mission Society Church of God is doing a cleanup, here is a video of them doing it" ~News

"Fox is notoriously unreliable period" ~Simon. The taste of foot in your mouth must be pretty horrible.

"So does a hit count of 800,000+ mean that there are 800,000 articles like you would hope?  Hardly." ~Genny

OH I APOLOGIZE, MY MISTAKE, ONLY A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND THEN. MY NUMBERS PALE IN COMPARISON TO YOUR ACUTE JUDGEMENT. YOU HAVE CLEARLY SHAMED ME WITH YOUR ATTENTION TO DETAIL.

Also you are making another assumption I didn't say that every single one of them was from the news, I clearly haven't read all 800 thousand of them. I was just pointing you people in the direction of tons of evidence proving you wrong. But like I said about genny, such people are fast and loose with the facts, trying to put words in my mouth just to set up a strawman and prove us "wrong". This is how the people of this community operate, this right here is how they delude themselves into thinking they've "exposed" lies and "win" arguments.

They make up assumptions and testify about claims that were never spoken. A classic example of the methods used by this community.

"What "hard evidence" does that give us?" ~Genny

It proves that Disturbed is delusional in the extreme and that all of you make horribly bad assumptions about everything. But its okay, I too would want to cover up my stupidity by calling it "irrelevant" if I said something as ridiculously dumb as you people have.

"Most of the links were wbesites or youtube videos by wmscog members" ~Emil

Which contain news footage from paraguay, georgia, atlanta, also Fox 5 news, and all around the world. Also comments from local officials outside of our church and what they said about us and who we are.

Please, just come out and say it, say that we "made it all up" say that its propoganda. Then you too can look like the shining beacon of intelligence Disturbed is.

"You think Fox 5 or anybody else from T.V. land "actually" know who you people are ?  Hell no." ~Stained

They know more than Disturbed, apparently, they can at least say our church name right and recognize who and what we are dedicating things to.

But please, ask Questioninginla about about my erroneous thesis and educate me about how I'm wrong to say "we do theese cleanups for the wmscog" when the news anchors say "they do their cleanups for the wmscog" and our membership says "we are doing this for our church". You are so hell bent on trying to prove everything we say wrong that your bias clearly shows and you start babbling stupidly incoherent arguments.

Also, HEY EMIL.

NICE WAY TO PROVE THAT THE WE LOVE YOU FOUNDATION GIVES ALL HONOR TO FATHER AND MOTHER AND DEDICATES ITS ACTIVITIES TO THE CHURCH. JUST LIKE I SAID.

You should go back and read how Disturbed says we "never mentioned" the world mission society church. He argued it very vehemently. He even wants to show me his special "we love you shirt" in order to prove that we never honored the church. ACE. SET. MATCH.

Like I said, you people are delusional, assumptuous, use logical fallacies, your fast and loose with facts, you put words in other people's mouths.

The credibility of this entire forum crumbles with every half-baked sentance that you post.

NICE AD HOMINEM SIMON. OR SHOULD I SAY POISONING THE WELL?

I THINK YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THE PART WHERE THEY SAY WE ARE FROM THE CHURCH, SHOW THAT WE ARE FROM THE CHURCH, AND THEN WE OURSELVES TALK ABOUT THE CHURCH.

This is what I mean by the mind-boggling extent of your delusional claims. You people ignore solid evidence staring you straight in the face and continue to lie in spite of it.

In the end it doesn't really matter what the organization is that sponsors these charity events.  It is an unattackable thing – genius.  It keeps the members busy and together. 

That is all.

144000 wrote:

"So what you're saying then is that no community service or blood drives are done in the United States on behalf of the We Love You foundation"

No I'm pretty sure some people somewhere do.

But out of 800 thousand news articles and chairty works how many of them are dedicated to the We Love You Foundation?

The numbers prove themselves, and that is my answer. Our #1 focus is setting a good example and giving glory to God.

Anything beyond that is a secondary minority, who may indeed have context to say "this operation was specifically organized by the We Love You Foundation" I'm sure thats the complete truth for some groups.

But to ignore the 800 thousand google hits for what our priority really is, displays the narrow-minded assumptions made by people who just like to twist anything they can see into a lie they can use to defame us.

 How is doing community service in the name of a foundation glorifying God? God doesnt need a foundation to glorify Him.

good point Simon. It was a good way for them to keep tabs on us and know how we're spending our time LOL

144000 wrote:

Also, HEY EMIL.

NICE WAY TO PROVE THAT THE WE LOVE YOU FOUNDATION GIVES ALL HONOR TO FATHER AND MOTHER AND DEDICATES ITS ACTIVITIES TO THE CHURCH. JUST LIKE I SAID.

You should go back and read how Disturbed says we "never mentioned" the world mission society church. He argued it very vehemently. He even wants to show me his special "we love you shirt" in order to prove that we never honored the church. ACE. SET. MATCH.

Like I said, you people are delusional, assumptuous, use logical fallacies, your fast and loose with facts, you put words in other people's mouths.

The credibility of this entire forum crumbles with every half-baked sentance that you post.

I don't know if you get what we guys are saying here. You brought up the 800K hits to prove that the cleanup is done under the auspices of the WMSCOG and not the We Love You foundation. What Genny was saying and I also said later, was that the 800K hits represent in vast majority, sites and people affiliated in some way to the WMSCOG. At the same time, I found over 35 times that number of hits with the WLY foundation substituted for wmscog.

Within the wmscog membership, WLY and WMSCOG are synonymous. That is why, your affiliated videos are no measure. In Disturbed's personal experience while being a member, WLY was projected to the secular world rather than wmscog during the cleanup operations. The numbers bear that out.

144000 wrote:

"So does a hit count of 800,000+ mean that there are 800,000 articles like you would hope?  Hardly." ~Genny

OH I APOLOGIZE, MY MISTAKE, ONLY A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND THEN. MY NUMBERS PALE IN COMPARISON TO YOUR ACUTE JUDGEMENT. YOU HAVE CLEARLY SHAMED ME WITH YOUR ATTENTION TO DETAIL.

Also you are making another assumption I didn't say that every single one of them was from the news, I clearly haven't read all 800 thousand of them. I was just pointing you people in the direction of tons of evidence proving you wrong. But like I said about genny, such people are fast and loose with the facts, trying to put words in my mouth just to set up a strawman and prove us "wrong". This is how the people of this community operate, this right here is how they delude themselves into thinking they've "exposed" lies and "win" arguments.

They make up assumptions and testify about claims that were never spoken. A classic example of the methods used by this community.

I didn't put words in your mouth.  You put them in your own mouth.  You said, "about 890,000 results from a variety of different tv news stations and newspapers" and "800 thousand news articles and chairty works" and "800 thousand google hits for what our priority really is" and "the specific proof in numbers being over 800 thousand" and "in the order of 800,000 official articles"  — That's 5 times you brought that up.  And now you don't like being called out when someone goes to the trouble to take your own suggestion to do the google search and check?

"What "hard evidence" does that give us?" ~Genny

It proves that Disturbed is delusional in the extreme and that all of you make horribly bad assumptions about everything. But its okay, I too would want to cover up my stupidity by calling it "irrelevant" if I said something as ridiculously dumb as you people have.

If you are arguing about whether the charity work is done in the name of the wmscog or in the name of the we love you foundation, it proves that both are occuring.

By the way, you use a lot of highly emotional words, but it would make a better impact to your argument if you used more facts instead.  But I can understand how frustrated you must be getting.  I have the feeling you are at your wit's end trying to defend the wmscog from some of the serious accusations that have been brought up (I'm not talking about this thread in particular).  Your lack of real answers for legitimate questions I think has cause you to lash out and fight vehemently for some of these other issues which are essentially unproveable because they have to do with each person's experience. 

I feel compassion for you and pray that God will settle your spirit and give you the strength to make the right choice…  If you had to choose between loyalty to God and loyalty to your church, which holds your highest loyalty?

Hal wrote:

It is harder for the spider to catch a fly than it is for the fly to catch a horse. 

This doesn't make much sense really.

I'd say it's harder for the spider to catch a cold than it is for Chris Hansen to catch a predator.