10 talents

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  • #6837
    king34
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    One of the bigguest scams on how to bring more people in is the 10 talents. World mission society members are obligated to bring 10 talents (people) to the church in order to enter heaven. Imagine all the laws that they keep, sabbath,passover, feast of god,offerrings. You can keep all those laws but if dont have the 10 talents you can not and will not enter heaven. This is a great form of recruiting and manipulating its member . Thats why all members of the church are so happy when they bring a new perosn in and are saying god bless you. because withought those 10 talents they are not going in to heaven . oh yea a talent has to stay in zion in order to be a talent. And when a memmber achive this feature they get some gold plated talents sent from mother and a bible signed with her name on it.

  • #45329

    144000
    Participant

    "So what you're saying then is that no community service or blood drives are done in the United States on behalf of the We Love You foundation"

    No I'm pretty sure some people somewhere do.

    But out of 800 thousand news articles and chairty works how many of them are dedicated to the We Love You Foundation?

    The numbers prove themselves, and that is my answer. Our #1 focus is setting a good example and giving glory to God.

    Anything beyond that is a secondary minority, who may indeed have context to say "this operation was specifically organized by the We Love You Foundation" I'm sure thats the complete truth for some groups.

    But to ignore the 800 thousand google hits for what our priority really is, displays the narrow-minded assumptions made by people who just like to twist anything they can see into a lie they can use to defame us.

    #45330

    Disturbed
    Participant

    I don’t need to defame the church…the church is doing it on its own because they LIE! My God doesn’t lie.

    #45331

    144000
    Participant

    And to revisit that topic, you guys make up controversial statements based upon tiny shreds of truth which are then exagerrated or lied about. You are not overtly lying.

    It is a lie of omission.

    Everything you people say ignores the true example of majorities in proven numbers, so then your lie becomes "the entire WMSCOG acts this way!" or "the entire WMSCOG thinks this way!". When in fact it is not only empirically untrue, but you aren't even speaking from a majority.

    In fact everything you say is spoken from a tiny minority, making every statement where you say "oh look at how the WMSCOG acts!" extremely short-sighted and extremely delusional.

    #45332

    144000
    Participant

    "the church is doing it on its own because they LIE!"

    But hold on Disturbed, don't you want to backpedal first and argue again that the news stories were false?

    Don't try to evade how you just got served.

    Surely you want to re-address how none of our cleanups honor Father and Mother or even mention the WMSCOG?

    #45333

    Disturbed
    Participant

    Where are the proven numbers? Your church claims to have 1.7 million registered members. They have not taken into account the members who have left. The number is far larger than you think.

    Your church tries to put down the NCPCOG because they only have 5 churches, while yours tries to claim it has 2,200. Even Ash said, “the last truth will not come out from a big church, but it will be shouted in the wilderness.”

    Your church doesn’t have the last truth for one, but even if it did it cannot come out from you because you boast too large of a church.

    #45334

    Disturbed
    Participant

    When you learn how to comprehend what you have read I guess then we can have an intelligent conversation. Until then I guess we’ll go round and round with your ignorance. Or maybe you want to the to have something to brag about on Sabbath day.

    Like I said…I have pics of brothers & sisters wearing shirts with the foundation name at the clean up campaigns and blood drives. Right back at you!

    #45335

    144000
    Participant

    Disturbed, where are you going?

    Not a tangent I hope.

    Please, educate me more on how the news stories are "False" according to your words?

    Lets revisit your statement that we don't honor Father and Mother or mention the WMSCOG in our cleanups before we move on. Have I not shown with video and newspaper evidence that your claim is false as it concerns the church as a whole, and that your opinions can only be a minority, with the specific proof in numbers being over 800 thousand?

    It sure would look bad if your trying to shift the goalposts now after abandoning that very explicit stance you just held.

    #45336

    Disturbed
    Participant

    I don’t believe any of the propaganda videos that they produce in Korea. Your videos aren’t proof to me. After every clean up campaign we did the chant “we love you”…why? Why did we wear shirts with the we love you name and logo?

    Crickets!

    #45337

    Simon
    Participant

    Disturbed think maybe we should get him this? http://www.barnesandnoble.com/s/?series_id=659143

    #45338

    144000
    Participant

    And I rest my case,

    Disturbed officially thinks that Fox 5 news is a propoganda video produced in Korea.

    I have no further questions.

    #45339

    Disturbed
    Participant

    Good one Simon! 144,000…what’s your mailing address…I have a gift for you.

    #45340

    Disturbed
    Participant

    You didn’t have a case! Nothing to rest. Don’t want to watch any propaganda that may influence my brainwaves. Thank you.

    #45341

    Questioninginla
    Participant

    Implant the thesis.

    Show how one can find evidence in the hypothesis to "prove" the thesis.

    Call it faith.

    Close the loop. (ex.  non-member family cannot challenge ASH because he has been labeled the Holy Spirit, and those that speak against – oh, I mean blaspheme (gotta teach that new meaning, as evidenced recently by 144ks posts) – and viola, those loved ones will be burning in hell for all of eternity.  THATs the way to do it! UH-HUH, UH-HUH!)  Member now shuts down family from helping him see anything contrary to doctrinal teaching, a group defense mechanism.

    Poor 144000, he's been taught how to think and since its done through a pervasive internal process, he actually believes it, and the mystical manipulation is built right in because he will always "find" evidence to prove his erroneous theses.  Genius.

    #45342

    144000
    Participant

    Just a friendly reminder that Questioninginla thinks all the news channels and newpaper reports are our erroneous thesis.

    And that Disturbed thinks Fox 5 News is propoganda produced in Korea.

    This is the delusional mentality of the kind of people who argue against us.

    They are totally unwilling to see hard evidence published publically, even when they are proven wrong in the order of 800,000 official articles.

    This is indicative of the fast and loose way this community handles facts in general. They recycle tired old arguments in the hopes that they can bury the comments we made which proved them to be slanderous, assumptuous, and downright wrong.

    So when we say "we already proved you wrong" and you stubbornly insist "nuh-uh!" here you can see yet another example.

    #45343

    Simon
    Participant

    Fox is notoriously unreliable period

    #45344

    genny
    Participant

     144000 wrote:

    They are totally unwilling to see hard evidence published publically, even when they are proven wrong in the order of 800,000 official articles.

    This is indicative of the fast and loose way this community handles facts in general. They recycle tired old arguments in the hopes that they can bury the comments we made which proved them to be slanderous, assumptuous, and downright wrong.

    So when we say "we already proved you wrong" and you stubbornly insist "nuh-uh!" here you can see yet another example.

     "Fast and loose" with the facts?  That's kind of funny coming from you.  But anyway…

    I did a google search for "world mission society church of god cleanup newspaper" just like you said.  Sure there are about 811,000 hits.  Not all are really newspaper or television articles.  For example, some are …

    –Write-ups and videos the wmscog did about themselves

    –Articles on anti-wmscog websites (like this one)

    –Articles that have absolutely nothing to do with the wmscog.  They just contain keywords.

    –And don't forget any repetitions of the same article posted on different sites.

    We know that as you click through the pages of a search, the results tend to become lest relevant.  I clicked on random pages of the search.  Out of the 10 results on page 10, 7 were completely irrrelevant, 2 were anti-wmscog, and 1 looked like it was going to be a pro-wmscog article but turned out to be a broken link.  And out of the 10 results on page 14, 3 were completely irrelevant, 1 was anti-wmscog, 2 were news articles about the wmscog community work, 1 looked like it would be an article but wasn't, 1 was a self-write up of the wmscog, and 2 were links to other search engines.

    So does a hit count of 800,000+ mean that there are 800,000 articles like you would hope?  Hardly.

    But let's say there are still lots of articles about the wmscog's charitable activities.  What "hard evidence" does that give us?  It tells us that the wmscog does charitable activities, but that has no impact on whether or not your doctrine is true.

    Just for comparison, I did a google search on "baptist community service" and got 20,400,000 hits.  And "catholic community service" gives 46,500,000 hits.  It doesn't really prove much, does it?

    #45345

    Questioninginla
    Participant

    144000 needs his medicine without any sugar in it.  Let him suffer for a while.  He apparently needs it.

    #45346

    Disturbed
    Participant

    @Genny…it just means they need to post more articles to catch up to the Catholics and Baptists LOL

    #45347

    emil
    Participant

     I too used the same phrase on Google and got over 790000 hits. I went through each link on the first 3 pages. Most of the links were wbesites or youtube videos by wmscog members. There were some anti-WMSCOG websites too. I did not see a single link to any newspaper website in those 3 pages.

    Interestingly, I substituted "world mission society church of god" with "we love you" in the search string and also added it as an exact phrase. This time I got almost 30 million hits. So what was that 144000 was trying to prove?

    #45348

    Stained
    Participant

    144000 wrote:

    Just a friendly reminder that Questioninginla thinks all the news channels and newpaper reports are our erroneous thesis.

    And that Disturbed thinks Fox 5 News is propoganda produced in Korea.

    This is the delusional mentality of the kind of people who argue against us.

    They are totally unwilling to see hard evidence published publically, even when they are proven wrong in the order of 800,000 official articles.

    This is indicative of the fast and loose way this community handles facts in general. They recycle tired old arguments in the hopes that they can bury the comments we made which proved them to be slanderous, assumptuous, and downright wrong.

    So when we say "we already proved you wrong" and you stubbornly insist "nuh-uh!" here you can see yet another example.

    You think Fox 5 or anybody else from T.V. land "actually" know who you people are ?  Hell no. 

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