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One of the bigguest scams on how to bring more people in is the 10 talents. World mission society members are obligated to bring 10 talents (people) to the church in order to enter heaven. Imagine all the laws that they keep, sabbath,passover, feast of god,offerrings. You can keep all those laws but if dont have the 10 talents you can not and will not enter heaven. This is a great form of recruiting and manipulating its member . Thats why all members of the church are so happy when they bring a new perosn in and are saying god bless you. because withought those 10 talents they are not going in to heaven . oh yea a talent has to stay in zion in order to be a talent. And when a memmber achive this feature they get some gold plated talents sent from mother and a bible signed with her name on it.
144000 wrote:
which attacks my faith,
It's not about belief, it's about behavior.
Questioninginla
Our behaviour is based on the bible, we follow the example of the apostles.
In addition most of the "bad behaviour" stories are exagerrated half-truths if not outright lies. 99% of our religion does not "Behave" in any of the bad ways you people have been complaining about.
Yet you want to insist that our entire religion is a cult, rather than admit that less than 1% of us had misunderstandings.
Four out of four Zion's I've been to have identical tenets of faith, the Zions are not as different as some people in this community insist. And in what small measures we are different there are biblical precedents for our circumstances.
Get over yourself, there was no big "revelation" our church has not been "Exposed" a minority of delisional people started and continue rumors which they are wholly ignorant about based upon the lies of a select few.
In fact most of you can't even get your stories to match.
And allow me to revisit that.
Less than 1% of WMSCOG claim anything remotely close to the wild and stupid stories propogated here.
1% of 1.7 million is 17 thousand. I'm actually being grossly generous here, in fact your microscopic numbers reveal how few and delusional you people truley are.
How many people have brought foward "stories" about the WMSCOG which match the ones you claim?
How many people have "suggested" they have tangible proof and reasoning, or have dedicated youtube videos to it, fourty, maybe fifty?
How many people actually know what they are talking about, and were in the church a long time, or were in positions of authority, two, maybe five?
So lets see, percentages aren't my best math but using our most GENEROUS numbers say that is in reality what, 0.00011% to 0.17% who claim to know "the truth" about us?
Get real. Understand that you are in a select and tiny minority that has grossly misunderstood what the rest of us understand clearly. There is a distinct reason why your stories are different from the other same members who went to the same Zions as you.
Your delisional, you have exaggerrated upon that delusion, you make assumptions to fill in the blanks, and you now lie to claim they are facts.
How come your brothers and sisters do not tell the same stories? If it is the truth then you shouldn't have to work so hard to convince them to leave.
How come I did not witness the same things in your Zions?
But it is hard for you to convince them to leave, because it is abundantly clear to us all that you people don't tell the whole story about anything.
144000 wrote:
Yet you want to insist that our entire religion is a cult
Show me where I insisted any such a thing.
Better yet, inform me as to what one is and how it operates.
144000 wrote:
Questioninginla
Our behaviour is based on the bible, we follow the example of the apostles.
In addition most of the "bad behaviour" stories are exagerrated half-truths if not outright lies. 99% of our religion does not "Behave" in any of the bad ways you people have been complaining about.
Yet you want to insist that our entire religion is a cult, rather than admit that less than 1% of us had misunderstandings.
Four out of four Zion's I've been to have identical tenets of faith, the Zions are not as different as some people in this community insist. And in what small measures we are different there are biblical precedents for our circumstances.
Get over yourself, there was no big "revelation" our church has not been "Exposed" a minority of delisional people started and continue rumors which they are wholly ignorant about based upon the lies of a select few.
In fact most of you can't even get your stories to match.
Our behaviour is based on the bible; we follow the example of the apostles that we feel like following and disregard other behaviors that are uncomfortable.
FIXED.
exagerrated half-truths if not outright lies – apply that to The True WMSCOG videos. Or not.
Is anyone allowed a dissenting opinion on your religion? Ut-oh. Red flag alert. Back to the inner room with you.
Questioninginla wrote:
144000 wrote:
Questioninginla
Our behaviour is based on the bible, we follow the example of the apostles.
In addition most of the "bad behaviour" stories are exagerrated half-truths if not outright lies. 99% of our religion does not "Behave" in any of the bad ways you people have been complaining about.
Yet you want to insist that our entire religion is a cult, rather than admit that less than 1% of us had misunderstandings.
Four out of four Zion's I've been to have identical tenets of faith, the Zions are not as different as some people in this community insist. And in what small measures we are different there are biblical precedents for our circumstances.
Get over yourself, there was no big "revelation" our church has not been "Exposed" a minority of delisional people started and continue rumors which they are wholly ignorant about based upon the lies of a select few.
In fact most of you can't even get your stories to match.
Our behaviour is based on the bible; we follow the example of the apostles that we feel like following and disregard other behaviors that are uncomfortable.
FIXED.
exagerrated half-truths if not outright lies – apply that to The True WMSCOG videos. Or not.
Is anyone allowed a dissenting opinion on your religion? Ut-oh. Red flag alert. Back to the inner room with you.
Fixed? Better than the confusion amongst everyone here. Yes we are fixed just as the apostles were fixed in their faith. The only confusion they had was when God told them to change their belief and preach to gentiles and eat all that has been made clean. But they had the same faith same doctrine. Not like the many that everyone here has. So we enjoy FIXED. Hopefully you to will become FIXED to GOD, not to god.
1004 wrote:
Questioninginla wrote:
144000 wrote:
Questioninginla
Our behaviour is based on the bible, we follow the example of the apostles.
In addition most of the "bad behaviour" stories are exagerrated half-truths if not outright lies. 99% of our religion does not "Behave" in any of the bad ways you people have been complaining about.
Yet you want to insist that our entire religion is a cult, rather than admit that less than 1% of us had misunderstandings.
Four out of four Zion's I've been to have identical tenets of faith, the Zions are not as different as some people in this community insist. And in what small measures we are different there are biblical precedents for our circumstances.
Get over yourself, there was no big "revelation" our church has not been "Exposed" a minority of delisional people started and continue rumors which they are wholly ignorant about based upon the lies of a select few.
In fact most of you can't even get your stories to match.
Our behaviour is based on the bible; we follow the example of the apostles that we feel like following and disregard other behaviors that are uncomfortable.
FIXED.
exagerrated half-truths if not outright lies – apply that to The True WMSCOG videos. Or not.
Is anyone allowed a dissenting opinion on your religion? Ut-oh. Red flag alert. Back to the inner room with you.
Fixed? Better than the confusion amongst everyone here. Yes we are fixed just as the apostles were fixed in their faith. The only confusion they had was when God told them to change their belief and preach to gentiles and eat all that has been made clean. But they had the same faith same doctrine. Not like the many that everyone here has. So we enjoy FIXED. Hopefully you to will become FIXED to GOD, not to god.
What god do you refer to? Papa ahsanhsong or Mama zhang?
Isn't this Ahsanhsong guy dead? how is a dead man fix something?
what about Mama zhang? she will fix the doctrine?
God bless you.
😛
I was told even if you make your best effort preach 2_/7 without ten talents it’s hell pretty sure that is not simply making sure people aren’t lazy
144000 wrote:
Get over yourself, there was no big "revelation" our church has not been "Exposed" a minority of delisional people started and continue rumors which they are wholly ignorant about based upon the lies of a select few.
You may find security in your numbers, but even if we're few we have the true God on our side. And you're about to find out that that is enough.
Tell Him how much we're delusional… show Him all your awards and news reports, that will impress Him, yes…
Smurf wrote:
144000 wrote:
Get over yourself, there was no big "revelation" our church has not been "Exposed" a minority of delisional people started and continue rumors which they are wholly ignorant about based upon the lies of a select few.
You may find security in your numbers, but even if we're few we have the true God on our side. And you're about to find out that that is enough.
Tell Him how much we're delusional… show Him all your awards and news reports, that will impress Him, yes…
I love it Smurf! They can do the "We love you!" chant at God to try to impress Him. LOL
Disturbed wrote:
Smurf wrote:
Tell Him how much we're delusional… show Him all your awards and news reports, that will impress Him, yes…
I love it Smurf! They can do the "We love you!" chant at God to try to impress Him. LOL
I have seen group cheers before.
Adds to camaraderie. Oxygenates the brain. Fun when its ad hoc. Manipulative when by design.
Be the group. Lose yourself. Be a number. Banal.
All of the community service is not done on behalf of the church but on behalf of the We Love You foundation. So they're not "proclaiming" to the world about mother god because on the website it calls her chairwoman zhang.
Disturbed wrote:
All of the community service is not done on behalf of the church but on behalf of the We Love You foundation. So they're not "proclaiming" to the world about mother god because on the website it calls her chairwoman zhang.
Careful, its "unattackable". vis a vis "how dare you say that charity work is bad". Its not bad in and of itself. It does keep people together and with the group. Genius, actually.
The chants remind me of some of the yoga groups that people try to exit, imho.
I said in a post on a different thread I don’t have a problem with the community service…they just need to be more truthful about it. They don’t represent WMSCOG during the clean up campaigns or the organized blood drives. It is all done for the We Love You foundation which is headed by Chairwoman Zhang aka god the mother.
Why doesn’t the church do this community service on behalf of god the mother since they want to make her the praise of the earth?
"They don't represent WMSCOG during the clean up campaigns or the organized blood drives"
I'm sorry I can't hear you over how wrong you are.
Go watch the Channel 5 news clip, I will await your sincere apology.
"Why doesn't the church do this community service on behalf of god the mother"
Wow, please make some more bad assumptions so everyone can see the kind of braindead logic you use.
You must not have read all the news articles which proclaim "World Misson Society Church of God cleans up this and that".
Open your ears and listen when the members say "We are from the World Mission Society Church of God, and we have a worldwide cleanup movement to show the example of Heavenly Mother" et cetera.
Disturbed, you just make one bad assumption after another, it is no wonder with the kind of delusional logic you use that you were lead astray.
But if you claim to be intelligent about this matter, then we cannot say you are merely confused, but actually intentionally misrepresenting everything you hear.
I don’t make assumptions. I know the cleanup campaigns & the blood drives I participated in were authorized by the We Love You foundation and credited it to the foundation as well. I don’t need to see false news stories to see your “proof”.
"false news stories"
Really Disturbed?
So now the newpaper companies and the news reporters are ALSO LYING?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzSoLbIhLhk
See 2:55 for WHAT FOX NEWS HAS TO SAY
See 3:26 for what NEWS REPORTERS HAVE TO SAY
See 3:48 for what the participants say about themselves, Over how many churches do they mention?
Did they say "we love you foundation?" No. They said World Mission Society Church of God
5:49 "In preparation for the Passover we want to be prepared for Father's coming"
If you want to continue this topic you are only going to embarass yourself more.
Do you want to take a look at more false news stories?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7T0itmvg18
So what you’re saying then is that no community service or blood drives are done in the United States on behalf of the We Love You foundation whose chairwoman is Zhang?
Disturbed wrote:
So what you're saying then is that no community service or blood drives are done in the United States on behalf of the We Love You foundation whose chairwoman is Zhang?
You go, Disturbed. Auugghh…. Lol.
I have pics of brothers & sisters at such events wearing shirts that say We Love You foundation. No where is WMSCOG mentioned on the shirts, banners at the event say We Love You. I mean come on! This dude is absolutely ridiculous and needs psychological help.
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