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One of the bigguest scams on how to bring more people in is the 10 talents. World mission society members are obligated to bring 10 talents (people) to the church in order to enter heaven. Imagine all the laws that they keep, sabbath,passover, feast of god,offerrings. You can keep all those laws but if dont have the 10 talents you can not and will not enter heaven. This is a great form of recruiting and manipulating its member . Thats why all members of the church are so happy when they bring a new perosn in and are saying god bless you. because withought those 10 talents they are not going in to heaven . oh yea a talent has to stay in zion in order to be a talent. And when a memmber achive this feature they get some gold plated talents sent from mother and a bible signed with her name on it.
Here’s your verse Stained…thanks to your buddies LOL
Romans 9:21
Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?
I’m claiming clay used for special purposes! The purpose of helping expose the church that does things DETESTABLE to God, such as idol worship, worship of a false god, keeping Passover in an unworthy manner (unworthy because they claim mother god is the reality of the Passover. In my bible it says Jesus’ flesh and blood gives eternal life not mother god)
Gotta wonder why I was explicitly told anyone without ten wouldn’t be saved
144000 wrote:
What I find more alarming in fact, is that other churches do not preach about trying not to be the man who buries his talent in the ground.
How is this not a mainstream teaching?
My church teaches about this parable. How do you know what other churches do and do not preach about? Have you attended other churches?
Simon wrote:
Gotta wonder why I was explicitly told anyone without ten wouldn't be saved
Imagine a world where 10 people bring you 10 people who'll bring you ten people who'll bring you 10 people who'll bring you 10 people and so on and so on and so on. And all those people who are bringing you people give you more than 10 percent of their income every week. At least with Amway you get some pretty good shit at a pretty good price.
Chandler Bing wrote:
Simon wrote:
Gotta wonder why I was explicitly told anyone without ten wouldn't be saved
Imagine a world where 10 people bring you 10 people who'll bring you ten people who'll bring you 10 people who'll bring you 10 people and so on and so on and so on. And all those people who are bringing you people give you more than 10 percent of their income every week. At least with Amway you get some pretty good shit at a pretty good price.
@CB, I've often thought about this. The numbers get astronomical pretty quick, especially if you take them at their word regarding how many members they have. The people who are 'in' on this are living like kings, without question. L. Ron was right, and these folks are a shining example of it. You want to be rich beyond belief and influence masses of people? Create a religion. Joo and Zahng got it sewn up. They pulled a "God the Mother" out of a book that is hugely misogynistic and people buy it without question. That's talent, and some serious woo-woo.
And they give you absolutely nothing. I hope there is a God on the other side of life cause he's gonna be awaitin'.
All this "recruiting" of the ten talents got me thinking. Everytime they discuss tithing they harp on the verse in Malachi…"Will a man rob God?"
They're robbing God in a HUGE way. All the money this church is taking in is going where? They've already declared it doesnt go to god the mother in Korea. So even if Zhang was God, they're robbing her by saying they dont report to korea nor send the money to her. In reality since Zhang is NOT God, they're truly robbing the Most High because they money isnt even going back into the church coffers. If that were the case, the church members wouldnt need to do as extensive "free will" donations.
Chandler for the record it was a cross between rhetorical and sarcastic 🙂
144000 wrote:
Such is verbatim the word of God. You should feel compelled to do more, not less, not by our words, but by God's stern warning.
If you object to this teaching then you object to God
The underlying assumption is that one is doing the work of God.
Careful: people fly planes into buildings in the name of their god.
1 Thess 5:21 "but test them all (prophecies)"
Do note that the Word of God does not say "test them to your level of comfort with it".
"If you object to this teaching then you object to God".
Jesus says that many will come in His name…I wonder if he would want a very thorough audit of His reappearance, or just a superficial one?
So this begs the question, "why the animosity"?
Wouldn't it be great if we all had a group of followers that were told by the good book 2000 years ago to examine thoroughly, yet when asked to do exactly that – all we have to do is say "them, bad." and viola! our followers defend us with every last breath.
Genny,
I have been to other churches before in fact I learned from many religions in my earnest pursuit of the truth. Recurring themes and historical lessons were was prompted me to realize which churches were making gross assumptions and which one church put all the pieces together correctly.
I have from no other churches heard of the 10 talents, and there are only a tiny handful of churches who even come close to practicing it.
But if you believe that the 10 talents is a good message, then you should perhaps tell the community here that they are over-reacting again.
Simon,
A minority of people are told this where group leaders mis-speak or do not take the time to explain or because they do not want to give people excuses to be like the man with two talents and be lazy.
It is better people live in the righteous fear of God which will save them, than have an excuse to be lazy and fail to bear any fruit because of their cold heart.
I have heard statements like this is passing and most of the time they are very quickly corrected.
Some people also do not ask questions to get a better explanation.
Questioninginla.
Except for the fact that everywhere I look I see lazy "so called" Christians.
Heck, the only other type of people that do make preaching and gospel work a big priority are coincidentally also hated. Jehova's Witnesses and Mormon's among the leading two among babylon churches.
It is because the preaching work of dutifull churches shames the lazy servants who are more concerned about making excuses for themselves and slandering faithful workers, than trying to become a faithful servant themselves.
That is why they live in fear on not bearing 10 talents, or else they would understand that they share in the talents of other and can bear their own through dutifull preaching, spend your time preaching for God instead of drinking beer and watching football. Most of the time WMSCOG members think with this priority, so that even when we run out of strength and do take a break we have clean hands and a clean conscience to relax.
saying it in sermon isn’t a minority and if it isn’t true it’s alie deacons and pastors aren’t to lie
144000 wrote:
Genny,
I have been to other churches before in fact I learned from many religions in my earnest pursuit of the truth. Recurring themes and historical lessons were was prompted me to realize which churches were making gross assumptions and which one church put all the pieces together correctly.
I have from no other churches heard of the 10 talents, and there are only a tiny handful of churches who even come close to practicing it.
But if you believe that the 10 talents is a good message, then you should perhaps tell the community here that they are over-reacting again.
Which churches and for how long?
The Parable of the Talents is about using what God has given you. God has given everyone abilities, knowledge, skills, and other blessings. He expects us to use these things to be productive in our own lives, in the lives of others, and for the sake of the Kingdom of God. He does not expect the same from everyone, but from each according to their ability.
It is not an admonition that if you don't win souls for Christ you will go to hell. If you were expecting that from other Christian churches, then I doubt you would find it.
Here are some commentaries about the Parable of the Talents:
http://www.studylight.org/com/fam/view.cgi?bk=mt&ch=25&vs=14#14 (Justin Edwards)
http://www.studylight.org/com/bnb/view.cgi?bk=mt&ch=25&vs=14#14 (Barnes)
http://www.studylight.org/com/acc/view.cgi?bk=mt&ch=25&vs=14#14 (Coffman)
We have stern messages about the 10 talents mission.
We should all be people who want to bear 10 talents.
We should not be looking for excuses to bear less or take God's mercy for granted, we should work with diligent love and God will not fail to reward us in heaven.
So I understand what you heard, and I also know the truth about the whole and entire message. Nobody is lying.
Only people that want to split hairs and be lazy doing less search for the "lie".
144000, please see my response to you on the previous page
Thats funny Genny because the apostle's example seems to be specifically about going out and preaching to as many people as possible.
Some people help the gospel in other ways, by feeding the preachers, or cleaning the Church building for preachers and new arrivals, or providing the resources for others to do the work.
But it all does come down to winning souls for Christ. In fact I'm sure those specific words were used by the apostles.
Are you changing the subject to the apostles' example/words, or are we sticking to Jesus' Parable of the Talents?
And so which churches did you go to and for how long?
The example of the apostles portrays the correct interpretation of the ten talents study, among other things.
I have no desire to talk to you about the other churches, none of them agree on anything and some of them didn’t even agree that Christ was God.
I don’t have to entertain every tangent posted here, some people in this community lord it over me when I’m silent for even a few hours or a day.
Everyone can see how unstable this way of thinking is.
I won’t trivialize the importance of the 10 talents because wicked servants will surely be thrown out into hell.
Niether will I lie that there isn’t more to the parable.
Am I to say to a member who may have weak faith “do not worry two talents is enough” and encourage him to be lazier? Certaintly not.
Am I to encourage saying “the wicked was thrown out”? Certainly so.
Do not confuse knowing the whole parable by calling someone who only told half of it a liar, I can think of several biblical reasons why the message should be revealed in two separate parts.
There is no malicious or intentional deciet, it is a repeat of the warning of God, and some certainly can and will fall away because of it. It is not to be mocked or taken lightly.
I’m done for now, Cheers.
144000 wrote:
I have no desire to talk to you about the other churches, none of them agree on anything and some of them didn't even agree that Christ was God.
I don't need to examine many different doctrines here either, but when you say, "I have from no other churches heard of the 10 talents, and there are only a tiny handful of churches who even come close to practicing it," I want to know on what basis you can make that comment.
You criticize others for speaking about wmscog doctrine when have not done the studies.
How am I to know if your comment come from many years of experience at established churches or if you've got to a handful of churches (maybe not even mainstream) once or twice? Maybe all you really know about mainstream churches is what the wmscog tells you. How do I know unless you share where your knowledge comes from?
I give full disclosure about everything to all my close friends, family, and also brothers and sisters in the WMSCOG. They know full and well.
When you leave this website and delete everything you'ce conspired with it which attacks my faith, then I will tell you about myself.
Until then, you aren't to know.
Brothers and sisters, some of which were actually with me as friends before we all entered the truth, know where I am coming from because a few of them not only witnessed but shared our previous beliefs and babylon churches. It is for them to know and feel relieved; it is for you to be exposed until you come to repent.
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