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One of the bigguest scams on how to bring more people in is the 10 talents. World mission society members are obligated to bring 10 talents (people) to the church in order to enter heaven. Imagine all the laws that they keep, sabbath,passover, feast of god,offerrings. You can keep all those laws but if dont have the 10 talents you can not and will not enter heaven. This is a great form of recruiting and manipulating its member . Thats why all members of the church are so happy when they bring a new perosn in and are saying god bless you. because withought those 10 talents they are not going in to heaven . oh yea a talent has to stay in zion in order to be a talent. And when a memmber achive this feature they get some gold plated talents sent from mother and a bible signed with her name on it.
I still find the whole concept revolting. But what baffles me the most is how some got more talents then there were people visiting the church.
Maybe you just get bonus points for rich victims.
* Yes, yeees. Mother ija beeeery proud.. }:] *
Talents could be in other Zions or even theoretically come one week a month and tithe all at once
Also your fruits talents counted
Then there is what you said
And what was so bad was 1) there was a competition based on who had the most talents and 2) your talent wasnt considered a talent until they tithed. Always about the almighty dollar. We gotta buy our way into heaven and get "promoted" by bringing in others underneath us in the pyramid scheme!
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And what was so bad was 1) there was a competition based on who had the most talents and 2) your talent wasnt considered a talent until they tithed. Always about the almighty dollar. We gotta buy our way into heaven and get "promoted" by bringing in others underneath us in the pyramid scheme!
Exactly! And not the practice itself was disturbing, but the fact that this was OK with the members!
Sickening! I still can't get over it.
I was in the utmost panic until I got my 10 talents! I knew I wasnt going to heaven if father came before I got all my talents. To make it a contest is sickening. You have no control over who accepts or who doesnt, especially if God is doing the calling. That should have been a wake up call too!
So now is 144,000 going to say we're lying about this too?!
You got 10?
@Disturbed: What happened to those 10 "lucky" people?I wasn't pressured to convert anyone, but then again I never really tithed either…
And no, they don't teach it's literally 144,000 anymore since the actual numbers are way over it. Gladly no competition there.
yes I did Simon. And I felt bad when I left knowing that I helped deceive them the same way I was deceived 🙁
I was able to get a few out and I'm currently working on the others.
Sorry for saying this but yes, you should feel bad. Better get them all out.
I was told literally 144000 the last day I was there 0o
When was that? My intel is from early 2012
Around Pentecost 2012
You win. Still… if those are the only ones the wms claims are going to be saved, I wouldn't want to be in that "family".
But hey, that's the circle of life – you get the blessings, mother gets the benjamins.
Charlatan is the random word of the day. Repeat with Elmo.
144,000 aren’t taught the only saved here
Someone explain Ponzi scheme to me, please.
What happens to the last person on Earth to be converted? God says oops, sorry?
Best example of Ponzi scheme….Bernie Madoff. Guess where his current address is? Jail for the rest of his miserable life. I want Bernie to get ready…he’s about to have some Korean cellmates.
@Smurf…trust me I feel terrible. Short of forcing them to leave, I can’t do much else. It’s according to God’s time that they will wake up and see the lies. The person who brought me tried to get me out 1 year ago. I didn’t listen because the church got to me first. They gassed up my head with countermeasures so I didn’t listen. Hindsight right? Hopefully I’ve put enough doubt in my fruits ears that they will remember I tried to get them out.
A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to its investors from their own money or the money paid by subsequent investors, rather than from profit earned by the individual or organization running the operation. The Ponzi scheme usually entices new investors by offering higher returns than other investments, in the form of short-term returns that are either abnormally high or unusually consistent. Perpetuation of the high returns requires an ever-increasing flow of money from new investors to keep the scheme going.[1]
The scheme is named after Charles Ponzi,[2] who became notorious for using the technique in 1920.[3] Ponzi did not invent the scheme (for example, Charles Dickens’ 1844 novel Martin Chuzzlewit and 1857 novel Little Dorrit each described such a scheme),[4] but his operation took in so much money that it was the first to become known throughout the United States. Ponzi’s original scheme was based on the arbitrage of international reply coupons for postage stamps; however, he soon diverted investors’ money to make payments to earlier investors and himself.
Except in the case of WMSCOG the only ones making money are the Korean leadership & mamasan.
don't feel bad, Disturbed. The deck was stacked against you in that regard. There is such a thing as home-court advantage in the field of sociology.
Always, always, always, keep your people busy in the routine you desire; in the cases where your routine is unavailable, just keep them busy with anything. People always adapt to the routine – from the most undesirable and terrible to the mundane and banal. Research supports this.
I agree with you. They kept us busy with getting signatures & getting signed off to be approved to preach subjects, door to door preaching, taking care of the new members, taking care of Zion. I mean the list goes on. Makes me regret not having a degree in psychology or sociology which was on my list of interests when choosing my major.
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