Zhang Gil Jah Archives - Examining the World Mission Society Church of God An in depth look at the World Mission Society Church of God Mon, 24 Jun 2013 01:25:36 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/ex-content/uploads/2020/03/cropped-Examining-updated-favicon-32x32.png Zhang Gil Jah Archives - Examining the World Mission Society Church of God 32 32 Weeds and Wheat https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/weeds-and-wheat/ Mon, 24 Jun 2013 01:25:36 +0000 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/weeds-and-wheat/ The COG has a bible study called Weeds & Wheat. They use the Parable of the Weeds from Matthew 13:24-30 and the explanation of Matthew 13:36-43. At the end of the bible study they show the teachings of Jesus and his apostles and then show teachings that came about after 106AD (after Apostle John died). They say that any new teaching after 106AD is what will lead you to hell.

So that leads me to question…isn’t god the mother a new teaching that came about AFTER 106AD? Jesus nor his apostles preached about a god the mother. Throughout the Old Testament, none of the prophets were sent to preach/teach about a god the mother. That tells me god the mother is a new teaching that will lead its followers to hell.

I plead with all current members to think about this teaching carefully. It is definitely a new teaching. It was NOT preached by Jesus. He told us all we needed to know during his time on the earth 2,000 years ago. Jesus didn’t say that at a later time I will come back to reveal a new teaching.

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Revelation 21 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/revelation-21/ Sun, 23 Jun 2013 21:00:26 +0000 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/revelation-21/ The Church of God says we opposers are incorrectly interpreting what Revelation 21 says. Let’s take a look.

Revelation 21-The New Jerusalem

1) Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.

Right away the chapter begins with an event that has not yet happened.

2) I saw the Holy City, the New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3) And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4) He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.

Still none of these events have taken place.

Revelation 21:9-10 One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.” And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God.

So the church’s position is that us opposers don’t understand that this chapter 21’s verses aren’t in chronological order. Why wouldn’t it be “in” order? You can try to say chapters and/or books of the bible aren’t in chronological order. But why would verses be out of order? Again, doesn’t make logical sense. These events are all under the heading of The New Jerusalem. You still cannot justify worshipping a mother god. Even if this New Jerusalem was a person and not a place, you still would be wrong because we are still living on this “old” earth.

And not only that…Revelation 20 says The Thousand Years. So the Church of God is still out of order. The events of the new heaven & new earth occur AFTER 1,000 years.

So it seems as though the church is trying to say it doesn’t matter what the bible says, we are still going to worship a god the mother. Even though in Jeremiah 44, the bible testifies that God says worshipping the queen of heaven is detestable.

In Revelation 21:4 it says “HE” will wipe every tear from their eyes. Well last I checked, Zhang isn’t a “he” nor has Ahnsahnghong wiped the tears of the members of Church of God’s eyes. There is still death, mourning, crying and pain on this “old” earth for the new heavens and new earth have not yet appeared.

Your turn Church of God. What will you make up next to show your members that you are NOT the true church?

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Chapter 17 A Curse is Received by Making an Offering to the Queen of Heaven https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/chapter-17-a-curse-is-received-by-making-an-offering-to-the-queen-of-heaven/ Tue, 11 Jun 2013 21:42:27 +0000 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/chapter-17-a-curse-is-received-by-making-an-offering-to-the-queen-of-heaven/ Ahn writes in his book "Problems with the New Jerusalem…":

Um Sooin fulfills the prophecy of the Jeremiah by claiming that she alone came down to this earth from the New Jerusalem and that people must serve her in order to receive great blessings.

 

[Jeremiah 7:18] The children gather wood, the fathers light the fire, and the women knead the dough and make cakes of bread for the Queen of Heaven. They pour out drink offerings to other gods to provoke me to anger.

 

Um Sooin claims that she is the only bride, the new heavens and the New Jerusalem. Through this, she becomes a queen and she receive tithes that should be given to Melchizedek. She raises herself up as if she is greater than God.

 

How arrogant and insolent an act is this? How long will God be patient with her?

Don't the wms members constantly talk about doing things for "more blessings", sending tithes to "mother" aka Zhang??  How is what the wms members do different from the acts committed in honor of Um that Ahn discusses above?

[Jeremiah 7:18-20] The children gather wood, the fathers light the fire, and the women knead the dough and make cakes of bread for the Queen of Heaven. They pour out drink offerings to other gods to provoke me to anger. But am I the one they are provoking? declares the LORD. Are they not rather harming themselves, to their own shame? " 'Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: My anger and my wrath will be poured out on this place, on man and beast, on the trees of the field and on the fruit of the ground, and it will burn and not be quenched. 

 

This prophecy is said to refer to the Roiman Catholic Church worshipping Mary but it becomes more clearer evidence against Um Sooin.

How would Ahn NOT say the same thing about what the wms does when they worship Zhang?  According to Ahn, the wms is cursed!

So why wouldn't the wms members believe what Ahn wrote over what the wms says about Zhang?  Since most learn about him being "god" before they learn about Zhang.  Wouldn't his words be the ultimate authority?

As a member you would have to decide who is the liar…Ahn [there is no mother god] or the wms/Zhang [there is a mother god, her name is zhang and Ahn revealed it to us].  

Both cannot be true. 

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Korean Harvest Festival https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/korean-harvest-festival/ Thu, 09 May 2013 15:54:40 +0000 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/korean-harvest-festival/ Chairwoman Zahng Gil-jah delivered the words of encouragement, saying, “Welcome, our family members from abroad. I can guess how difficult it is for you to live in a foreign country, because many Korean people also went abroad to work two or three decades ago. Pick yourselves up though you have difficulties. There’s a Korean old saying about the time of Chuseok (which is Korean harvest festival and also called Hangawi): “No more or less, but just be like Hangawi.” It means that all is abundant at Hangawi. We have prepared songpyon a special rice cake for Chuseok, and other festive food for you. Enjoy the food and be healthy.”

 http://weloveuzahnggiljah.blogspot.com/2012/05/intl-we-love-u-foundation-chairwoman.html 

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Rev 22:17 The Spirit and the Bride. https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/rev-2217-the-spirit-and-the-bride/ Tue, 07 May 2013 00:59:33 +0000 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/rev-2217-the-spirit-and-the-bride/ Everyone here knows our intereptation for this verse.  As everyone only says we are wrong no one cares to give an explanation. That's very cowardly, this is a debate, Joshua(not attacking the person but method) likes to say, study it yourself, but that defeats the purpose of debating.  

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Revelation 22:17 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/revelation-2217/ Thu, 02 Jun 2011 20:59:49 +0000 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/revelation-2217/ “The Spirit and the bride say, “Come”!…

I was reading this verse and a question came to mind. If Zhang Gil Jah is supposed to be the bride then shouldn’t she be saying “Come”? Why hasn’t she gone on national television to reveal her true identity if she is the female “god”? Does anyone know if she has ever proclaimed that she is god? I looked on the english.watv.org website and I could not find a direct statement from her to this effect. I see sermons mentioning the bride as the mother image but never naming who she is. Maybe I missed it? Any WMSCOG member out there willing to clarify?

Also, why doesn’t she say who she is on her foundation website if she is really “god” and if allegedly the world can only be saved by her? She names herself “Chairwoman” not “god” who is supposed to say “Come”. http://eng.weloveu.or.kr/intro/foundation.asp

This just seems strange to me.

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