wmscog Archives - Examining the World Mission Society Church of God An in depth look at the World Mission Society Church of God Fri, 02 Jan 2015 02:46:08 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/ex-content/uploads/2020/03/cropped-Examining-updated-favicon-32x32.png wmscog Archives - Examining the World Mission Society Church of God 32 32 A heartbreaking new video from a former member. https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/a-heartbreaking-new-video-from-a-former-member/ Fri, 02 Jan 2015 02:46:08 +0000 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/a-heartbreaking-new-video-from-a-former-member/ More and more brave ex members going forward.

 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVCZp5pUHNg

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WMSCOG apologetics https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/wmscog-apologetics/ Tue, 14 Oct 2014 03:57:32 +0000 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/wmscog-apologetics/ Is there a WMSCOG apologetics site? I wanna know their side of the argument so I’m better prepared in discussions. When telling a Church of God member that Ahsanghong never claimed to be Christ what is their usual response?

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How does the leadership work exactly? https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/how-does-the-leadership-work-exactly/ Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:12:33 +0000 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/how-does-the-leadership-work-exactly/ I know team leaders are usually in charge of a small group & they need to be firm in their faith.

They are usually 21-28?

Next is Deaconess / deacons and are in charge of everyone as a whole?

So who gets paid? I remember hearing that in the Zion’s I was with , only missionaries get salary and that deacons get paid sometimes and TL’s get bonuses for every tithing member who stays or church debit cards.

The religion part never got me hooked but the business aspect did.

It seemed that the leaders never really had a Worldly job they were always in church no matter time of day/night.

I also found it interesting that the Korean deacons/deaconesses and certain sisters who were direct from Korea were very private and very quiet , kind of like keeping a watchful eye.

Leaders also were very private about anything to do with their private lives but insisted they knew every detail about sisters and brothers lives.

This was in a nj/ny Zion’s.

Any experience similar?

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Waiting Rooms https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/waiting-rooms/ Wed, 04 Jun 2014 20:38:16 +0000 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/waiting-rooms/ I was just thinking, according to the wms we are the angels who were cast out of heaven because we tried to kill our parents and brothers and sisters blah blah blah… So I was thinking HOW do we come down to this earth? What is the procedure?

Assuming that all those who were guilty were arleady named and condemned: Where do we stay before we come to earth? This question stems from the fact that not all people are born at the same time. Even though our identity and crime is known since according to them the wages of trying to kill mama and papa are death and even babies die and what not because of the original sin in heaven.

So where is there a waiting room where these so called heavenly sinners wait? How is it decided as to who goes first and who is born when and at what time? Where are the so called relevant verses in the bible to support the notion that we wait somewhere? The verses that say according to this criteria it decided you would be born in China or Africa and at what time? The 1800 the 1900? B.C.E or A.C.E? How are all these things decided? Where in the bible are the supporting verses? (Seeing how they like to claim that all they preach is abasolute biblical truth) 

To be fair the cult never made any mention of us waiting somewhere but this raises some serious questions, some I have already noted.

But seriously, if their doctrine is true, we have to have been waiting somewhere because not all people are born at the same time. I was thinking about this the other day and I realised just easily I had bought into something that seemed plausable but yet actually has many loopholes. Really now trying to kill God! Bull dust.

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Trip from July 10 to the 18 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/trip-from-july-10-to-the-18/ Wed, 28 May 2014 23:29:10 +0000 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/trip-from-july-10-to-the-18/ Anyone from NYC or NJ — you guys have any info on a "suppose" trip the WMSCOG members will make during this time ..???

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This just in: god is no longer korean, he is now brazilian https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/this-just-in-god-is-no-longer-korean-he-is-now-brazilian/ Fri, 02 May 2014 18:41:47 +0000 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/this-just-in-god-is-no-longer-korean-he-is-now-brazilian/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/howaboutthat/10558638/In-pictures-Inri-Cristo-the-man-who-thinks-he-is-Jesus-reincarnated.html

A 66-year old brazilian guy is also thought to be the second coming. :O

He is being accused of having a "mental illness", which probably means he's the real deal, since Jesus was being persecuted too!! Isn't that amazing proof!!

To any wms member: don't you find it a bit disturbing that there are suddenly so many people claiming to be the second coming? Hasn't the Bible warned us against such people? It has been prophesied –

Matt 24:5: "For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Messiah,' and will deceive many."

WMS doctrine agrees we're in the last days and the warning above is precisely for that time. How does that not include Ahn Sahng-hong?

 

 

Acts 1 tells us exactly how He's going to return: "...why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven."

 

Come back in the same way?? COME BACK IN THE SAME WAY?

You mean Jesus went into heaven as a korean baby?

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VICARIUS FILII DEI https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/vicarius-filii-dei/ Sun, 09 Mar 2014 15:38:59 +0000 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/vicarius-filii-dei/ According to the WMS when you turn the Roman letters from the pope's title into numerals, you get a sum of 666. Right.

So if we use the same logic, we uncover who the real beast is!

Take a look. It's like straight from the "Evidence" book.

http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/2342608/Barney/

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The REAL QUESTION: Did Christ Ahnsahnghong Restore the Passover? https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/the-real-question-did-christ-ahnsahnghong-restore-the-passover/ Fri, 24 May 2013 18:51:22 +0000 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/the-real-question-did-christ-ahnsahnghong-restore-the-passover/

The reason I say the real question is " Did He bring back the Passover?" is because the Passover is the true sign to recognize God in Spirit and God in the Flesh. All through out the Old testament and the New Testament. So if someone restored the Passover, correctly, according to the Bible's regulation, before Christ Ahnsahnghong, then they would be the christ.

 

I will make one thing very clear. Herbert Armstrong established the World Wide Church of God in the Early 20th century. That church claims they keep the Passover. If their Passover is correct, then Herbert Armstrong was the Christ. However, there are alot of inconsistencies w/prophecy from that church. First of all, they believe in sunset theory. According to the Sunset Set Doctrine, the Passover cant be kept because, the appointed time of the Passover is 1st month 14th day at twilight (when the sun goes down Deut 16:5)so since they believe that the day begins at sunset, to them, when the sun goes down is no longer 1st month 14th day at twilight, it becomes 1st month 15th day. 

 

2nd thing is Herbert Armstrong didn't come from a country that is EAST of Patmos Island. According to Revelation 1:9, Apostle John was on Patmos Island when he wrote revelation. And when he saw Christ coming w/the Seal of God, he saw him coming from the East.(Revelation 7:1-3) So he saw Christ coming from a country that is east of Patmos Island. So the fact that Herbert Armstrong didnt come from the east, but from America, which is west, shows he is not the christ. And if he isnt the christ, that means the Passover he taught was wrong. It is the same with all these churches that claim they are the true church. If Jehovahs Witnesses are the true church then Charles Russell is the Christ. Follow him.  If SDA is the true church, then Ellen G. White is the christ. Follow her.. etc. 

 

Nobody can prove that Christ Ahnsahnghong didn't do what the Bible teaches "ONLY GOD CAN DO" there for he is the Christ.

 

I only ask one thing. Please come w/Biblical or tangable proof. And stick to the topic. You guys are very angry, its not even comical, it's sad. Are you trying to pick and point at WMSCOG or are you trying to prove Christ Ahnsahnghong isnt the 2nd coming Christ? This will end all discussion.  someone PLEASE prove that Christ Ahnsahnghong didn't restore THE PASSOVER, CORRECTLY, ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE'S REGULATION. If you prove that, then you prove WMSCOG is a false church following a false Christ. End of story.

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"The True WMSCOG" on Missionary Ron Ramos Explains Why He Left the WMSCOG After 12 Years https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/the-true-wmscog-on-missionary-ron-ramos-explains-why-he-left-the-wmscog-after-12-years/ Thu, 23 May 2013 20:46:06 +0000 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/the-true-wmscog-on-missionary-ron-ramos-explains-why-he-left-the-wmscog-after-12-years/ This comment was originally left on Missionary Ron Ramos Explains Why He Left the WMSCOG After 12 Years – A Former Member's Story

The True WMSCOG writes:

http://www.thetruewmscog.com/hassan-and-the-wmscog/

 

Come see the discrepancies in Hassan's and Ron's statements.

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"The True WMSCOG" on Ahnsanghong Never Claimed to be God https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/the-true-wmscog-on-ahnsanghong-never-claimed-to-be-god/ Thu, 23 May 2013 20:42:36 +0000 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/the-true-wmscog-on-ahnsanghong-never-claimed-to-be-god/ This comment was originally posted on Ahnsanghong Never Claimed to be God

The True WMSCOG says:

http://www.thetruewmscog.com/ahnsahnghong-never-claimed-to-be-god/

 

Come and find the answer to this erroneous accusation!!

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