root of david Archives - Examining the World Mission Society Church of God

Jesus said ask for anything in My name

Disturbed — Wed, 05 Jun 2013 05:47:45 +0000

John 16:23-24 In that day you will no longer ask me anything. I tell you the truth, my Father will give you whatever you ask in my name. Until now you have not asked for anything in my name. Ask and you will receive, and your joy will be complete.

There are two reasons why I’m bringing this up:

1) Jesus told his disciples while he was living to pray in His name. I found some curious food for thought concerning WMSCOG claim on praying in Ash’s name. He DIED in Feb 1985. According to what a pastor told us members at a countermeasure meeting, Mr Kim told everyone to pray in Ash’s name June 2, 1985 the date for General Assembly that year. The General Assembly allegedly is held at the beginning of the year according to the “Sacred Calendar”. So even though Ash should have been the savior for this age after he was baptized in 1948 (according to the sermon Savior of Each Age) NO ONE prayed in his name until 4 months after he died?! Seems contradictory to what they teach. If our prayers were to be granted from the time he was declared the savior, people should have been praying his name sooner than 4 months after he died. And why isn’t that recorded anywhere? Again we are relying on the claimed testimony of Mr Kim and maybe Zhang. While Jesus told his disciples to pray in his name prior to the crucifixion, then if Ash knew when he was going to die it should have been announced sooner than 4 months after his death.

2) Clearly most Christians understand and believe in the trinity-3 roles but one God. Jesus said “my Father will give you whatever you ask in my name”. To my knowledge no where written in the bible does it say Father Jesus. That’s not my issue. Why does WMSCOG call Ash as father Ash? Or why not Holy Spirit Ash? If he is the second coming Jesus and does things like 1st Jesus so we will know it is he, shouldn’t he just be called Ash and not father Ash? I mean it just seems weird if 2CC is patterned after 1st Jesus.

7 Churches-Revelation chapters 2 and 3

Disturbed — Sun, 02 Jun 2013 06:28:23 +0000

Read about the letters to each of these churches:

1. Ephesus (which means “desirable”)   

2. Smyrna (which means “sweet smelling,” like myrrh) 

3. Pergamos (which means “elevation” or “exalted”)   

4. Thyatira (which means “sacrifice of contrition” or “sweet savor of labor”) 

5. Sardis (which means “renewal”) 

6. Philadelphia (which means “brotherly love”) 

7. Laodicea (which means “judgment” or “judging the people”)

http://amazingdiscoveries.org/S-deception-Revelation_letter_seven-churches

Here’s a link that I found on the Internet that closest matches the names WMSCOG teaches in their sermon

About Melchizedek

Freedfromreseda — Fri, 31 May 2013 06:10:18 +0000

Melchizedek the Priest

7 This Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed him, 2 and Abraham gave him a tenth of everything. First, the name Melchizedek means “king of righteousness”; then also, “king of Salem” means “king of peace.” 3 Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, resembling the Son of God, he remains a priest forever.

So this is one of the verses from About Melchizedek. Allegedly Ahn fits the criteria for these three items:

1) Without father or mother

2) without genealogy

3) without beginning of days or end of life

"The True WMSCOG" on Missionary Ron Ramos Explains Why He Left the WMSCOG After 12 Years

admin — Thu, 23 May 2013 20:46:06 +0000

This comment was originally left on Missionary Ron Ramos Explains Why He Left the WMSCOG After 12 Years – A Former Member's Story

The True WMSCOG writes:

http://www.thetruewmscog.com/hassan-and-the-wmscog/

Come see the discrepancies in Hassan's and Ron's statements.

Ahnshahnhong 37 Years or 21 Years?

oliverlog — Sun, 12 Jun 2011 09:15:55 +0000

As wmscog says Ahnshahnhong preached for 37 years from 1948 when he was baptized in SDA(Seventh day adventist) till his death in 1985 +3 years of Jesus Christ’s preaching = 40 years reign of King David (the reason for his qualification of 2nd coming/ the root of david). I want to ask wmscog –

Q1- why then he left SDA and opened a new church?

Q1a-Was SDA doctrine wrong? If yes :Then why he got baptized in a wrong doctrine? Didn’t he know it already being 2nd christ? (Possible Answer)-May be he had no other way because no “true” church existed.

Q1b-So why he took 16 years to open a new church? (Possible Answer)-Maybe because he had to do hard work (Stone carrying as shown in wmscog videos) for a living during the day and had little time in the night to write his books (why din’t Jesus write any book?).

Q1c-So why did God put so much burden on his shoulders? (Not fair. 1st coming christ had only 1 assignment. Poor 2nd coming.)

Q2- Was SDA right? Then why open a new doctrine?

Q3-As Ahnshahnhong started a new church in 1964 and stared preaching new ways of Gospel, then he only scored 1964 to 1985 =21 years. So he comes short 16 years to be eligible for Christship. Oooops!! (Christship is a new word I discovered due to the need on the “new age”). (Possible Solution)-May be they can add sweet 16 years of ‘mother’ who must not be a mother at that age i guess and must be beautiful to qualify to be the bride of the Lamb/Ahnshahnhong/….(somebody please write here the name of Mother’s fist husband)!!