marriage Archives - Examining the World Mission Society Church of God An in depth look at the World Mission Society Church of God Sat, 18 Mar 2017 20:40:41 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/ex-content/uploads/2020/03/cropped-Examining-updated-favicon-32x32.png marriage Archives - Examining the World Mission Society Church of God 32 32 The WMSCOG just wants your money https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/the-wmscog-just-wants-your-money/ Sat, 18 Mar 2017 20:40:41 +0000 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/the-wmscog-just-wants-your-money/ Here is a little story for all you for this weekend…

So…I overdrafted one of my bank accounts.  Now – it's not my main bank account – it was a separate bank account used only to collect a direct deposit from a part time job once a month.  The bank account had a little less than $5,000 in it at any given time – again it only collected a direct deposit once a month…

Here's the story –

When I was an active member at the WMSCOG I "received the blessing" to assist in opening and runing a house church.  At the time I viewed it as such a blessing!  I would certainly have lots to learn and it would surely increase my faith.  Boy – I had NO IDEA what I was getting into!  Part of being a "team" is working as a team.  The church leader I was working with was nothing more than a deceptive, lazy, jerk that took advantage of my kindness.  Well anyways – the rented property (since it was a house church) needed a lot of renovations and appliances (the land lord left NO appliances!).  No assistance ever came from the main Church everything had to be offered up independently.  I was coerced into opening up an account at a Home Improvement store to buy construction materials and appliances like a frige, stove, washer, dryer, etc…the total bill came  to around $4,500.  Not only was I responsible for making payments to this – but the leader also expected me to assist with paying the rent and also utilities.  At the time I had no problems with it – as I viewed it as a sacrifice for the greater good – being able to keep a Zion running in the area.

(NO ONE, not even the Church leader, other member, or main Zion ever assisted me in paying off this debt!  I had to pay it all off on my own before the big interest rates hit) 

It turns out this Church leader never really held down a stable job for at least a year.  They had few jobs (only sales) but they really weren't doing well at selling anything.  They went months on end without making even a single sale.  I had no idea why they persisted on looking and maintaining a job that is commissioned based rather than a steady paycheck…Anyways a few months after establishing the house Church the wife's leader approached me and asked if I'd be willing to pay more for the rent because her husband was having difficulty finding a job (hard to really believe; I dont care if he had to work at a McDonalds or work an overnight shift at a WalMart! A Job is a Job! Beggers can't be choosers!  Why could he never get a steady job?)  So I aggreed to offer up a little more – since it was "my blessing".  So for about an entire year it was like this – the main Church Leader never really had a stable job.  The Church leader never stepped up and said to me that he could assist in paying the rent or utilities.   

What was most interesting is that he would always deliver services and say things like how important it was to have a job to support the gospel; or how important it was to learn God's sacrifice.  He would also mention things like; we shouldn't spend so much time on the internet watching YouTube (and then he'd laugh about it – "Brothers and Sisters, that's something I need to work on!").  While i was working on a project for Zion I was allowed to use the Zion computer I noticed that in the internet history it contained hours upon hours of silly pointless videos watched on YouTube.  He was the only one at home during those times – basically he just watched hours on hours of YouTube while i slaved away at work only to have almost my entire check consumed by this church.  I also found one YouTube video of a hispanic woman doing a booty shake.  Wow – that doesn't seem so Child of God – especially from a Church leader telling people that they need to support the Gospel.   

To put it in perspective this is about how much I would spend ONLY on this church; this does not include any personal food or even gas I would use to fill up my car (even though it should since I had to use my car 99% of the time for preaching and other missions).  I would spend a whopping $1,800 a month on this Church.  That included rent, utilities, paying off the debt from the Home Improvement store, tithes and offerings, food for Zion. 

Keep in mind this total does not include personal expenses such as: Car insurance, Car payment, Gas for my car (even though Zion used my car a lot!), personal food, health insurance, personal items…dry cleaners.  Keep in mind the above is merely an estimate – that does not include money I'd have to offer for the trips if we'd go to the main Zion for an education.  Very easily we can see that I would be spending over $2300 a month and a large part of it was due to the Church

I remember I could only allot $20 for new shoes for the Passover.  They were cheap, and the soles came off a few months later and I had to reglue them on.  Well I continued to have to reglue them every few months until I got so sick of it and having to give almost all my money to this Church I decided to splurge!  It really wasn't splurging since I really needed more professional looking shoes – I worked in an office environment!  Imagine walking around in a professional setting with dirty shoes that are coming apart!  When I bought the shoes I got a really good deal if I purchased two pairs of shoes – the total amount came out to about $200.  I remember a brother said to me "Wow! I can't believe you could just spend that much just like that!  I wish I was you!  Surely Mother has blessed you!"….Oh boy – In this Church people will say things like that if you try to upgrade yourself for the professional environment.  I could only afford to wear one suit – I grew out of my other suits and it angered me that I couldnt even upgrade myself while the leader just watched YouTube videos all day not evening trying to help with the rent or even that $4500 bill from the home improvement store.     

Also there was one brother who could only afford to buy is food from the dollar store.  I remember members laughing at him for buying meat in a can.  I honestly cringed at the thought of having to buy cheap meat in a can – I for one would not buy cheap meat; but really it was all he could afford.  He would also walk around preaching with dirty shoes with holes in them and clothing too big for him since all he could afford was to buy them at the thrift store.  He eventually was told not to come to Zion unless he fixed himself by getting himself a stable job "You must take care of your personal life before coming to serve God!  How can you focus on God if your physical life is difficult!" – These were the rebukes he would receive from the leader.  I felt that the leaders pushed him out of Zion because he stopped tithing AND offering, and he also ate the food without even contributing.  But the same could be said about the leader – he hardly ever helped pay the bills and I felt he never even made a good enough effort to get a job.

And that my friends…is why I left this Church!  I am so glad i left because I can actually upgrade myself and not be forced to buy cheap food at the dollar store or wear cheap shoes.  God is great – don't fall victim to this Church!  They will use deceptive measures to try and recruit you so you can get in an arranged marriage and open up house churches for them! 

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PIctures of Ahnsahnghong and his wife https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/pictures-of-ahnsahnghong-and-his-wife/ Sun, 17 Jun 2012 21:56:57 +0000 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/pictures-of-ahnsahnghong-and-his-wife/ When I was a member of the WMS I was told (more than once) that Ahn was never married and didn't have any kids.  Now of course, members are saying that the WMS never denied that Ahnsahnghong had a family.  Well the WMS denied it when I was there and I know other former members from other locations that were told the exact same thing I was.  But here are pictures of Ahn with his wife and daughter.

http://www.ncpcog.co.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=24&wr_id=23&page=1

http://www.ncpcog.co.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=24&wr_id=3&page=2

I just could not remain a member of an organization that lied to me about whom they believe to be "god".  

Here is a link to the rest of the pictures so that you can see them all for yourselves.  

http://www.ncpcog.co.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=24&page=2&page=1

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Marriage for pleasure. only at wmscog https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/marriage-for-pleasure-only-at-wmscog/ Mon, 21 May 2012 17:51:32 +0000 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/marriage-for-pleasure-only-at-wmscog/ HI fellow members,

I had been a member of this church for a little bit over a year.This church was introduced to me by my ex girl-friend. But to make the story short this so called true church is letting their female member marry the brother just for sex. There was this sister on the church that was in a relationship with a brother and since the brother was not a believer no more she decided to end their relationship. after a few months after their break up she wanted to get back with him but he said no. A short while after she was texting him to get married with her because she could not hold it no more(sex) but the brother said no that he would not marry her for sex. I found out a week ago that this sister told pastor her problem about wanting to have relations and pastor approved a marriage between her and another brother that was really good friends with the ex of the sister.smh. This church is letting these poor lost young adults get married purely out of desire and not love.

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"god's" children https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/gods-children/ Fri, 30 Dec 2011 04:28:10 +0000 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/gods-children/ I recently heard that the wmscog finally publicly admitted that ahnsahnghong and zhanggiljah were previously married to other people and had children.  This is a real shocker because previously I had been told that they had never been married or had children.  Other former members have told me that they have also heard both conflicting stories. 

So why do members that have heard both stories continue to stay in the church?  Did the "mother god" previously approve for the wmscog to lie to the congregation about her and ahnsahnghong's history?  God doesn't lie.  It seems like "the truth" is something that changes at the wmscog.

We are all children of God correct?  So why would "god" be born on earth and have intercourse with one of his own children?  Why would "god" need to have children the way that humans do?  The real God created Adam from the dust of the ground.  Why would "god" give birth to "angels that sinned against 'god' in heaven"?  That just doesn't make any sense! 

The wmscog also taught me that everything Jesus did was an example for us.  What kind of example did ahnsahnghong and zhanggiljah set for their followers?  That divorce, adultery and lying are ok?  God Almighty is perfect.  Jesus was perfect.  ahnsahnghong and zhanggiljah were/are sinners and there is no way that either one of them will ever be "gods". 

But I guess that's me "using my own mind" again huh?  Seriously you can't make this stuff up.

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Acts 4:10-12 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/acts-410-12-comment-moved-from-no-salvation-through-any-other-name-to-forum/ Fri, 05 Aug 2011 02:05:16 +0000 https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/forums/topic/acts-410-12-comment-moved-from-no-salvation-through-any-other-name-to-forum/ [Originally posted by Adam on  August 1, 2011 5:57 PM under No Salvation Through Any Other Name and moved by admin to Forum]

Isa 43:11 says there is no other Savior apart from Jehovah. Joel 2:32 refreshes this fact. Therefor, according to your human logic, we cannot be saved in the name of Jesus. Oh wait, Jesus is the name we are saved by after Jesus came. Hmm John16:24 Jesus says, “Until now you haven’t prayed in my name…” This indicates when Jesus came, the name of the savior changed because people were profaning the name Jehovah. It is the same now. There are people named jesus, and the name is tossed around like trash. Jesus even said he is coming with a new name rev3:12. I am starting to doubt you even went to the church as you haven’t studied savior of each age. Are you sure you just didn’t look online and make up your own opinions?

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