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[Originally posted by nick on August 1, 2011 at 1:53 PM]
Jesus only directly said He was God to people who asked and only to small groups. Never did he proclaim to the masses that He was God. In fact He told his disciples not to tell people He was the Messiah in Matthew 16:20.
He showed them He was God mainly by fulfilling prophecy. For example read Luke 7:20-23 then read Isaiah 35:3-6. This is God’s style, He says something and then fulfills it.
Now read the first chapter of The Mystery of God and the Spring of the Water of Life and you will see where Christ Ahnsahnghong says He is God. Father unseals the secret of the seven seals in the beginning of the chapter and at the end of the same chapter He quotes Rev 5:1-6 which says only the Lion the Tribe of Judah, the Root of David (Jesus) can open the scroll and it’s seven seals, and even if you keep reading it says the Lamb took the scroll and is worthy to open it’s seals. The same goes for Heavenly Mother in the last chapter of the book. It is God’s style.
[Originally posted by nick on August 2, 2011 6:37 PM]
Let me show you another part of The Mystery of God and The Spring of the Water of Life (also known as Father and Mother) where Ahnsahnghong says He is God…Read John 5:25 where Jesus indirectly talks about Himself as the Son of God.
Now i’ll retype a passage straight out of Father’s book:
“Even now, some people are only looking up into the sky, even though the Son of Man has already come in a cloud (in the flesh hiding God’s glory) and is gathering His elect. They only insist that He will come on the actual clouds of the sky, without studying the prophecies, so that they fail to receive Him. Finally, they will fall into destruction.”
Admins please give yourselves to Father and Mother before it is too late!
“However, it was not easy for them to accept him who came contrary to their expectations. Therefore, they didn’t receive him and they were all destroyed.”
That was about Elijah coming as John the baptist but i feel it is applicable to this situation.
[Originally posted by nick on August 2, 2011 7:48 PM]
Again another excerpt from Father’s book:
“If Jesus had been with them in the flesh during that time, the truth wouldn’t have been taken away. To restore the lost truth, Jesus has come secretly in the last days. In opposition to Him, Satan has stirred up the nations to make war against the saints.”
Nick. When God returns for the second time all eyes will see him. He will not come in secret. Besides when I was in the WMSCOG the missionary told me that Ahnsahnghong ascended into heaven. After I was kicked out of the church I did some research. It comes to find out that Ahnsahnghong died in 1985. You're in a cult. Get out of it before it drains your money and ruins your life.
Yey Nick, you might want to look on page 181 in chapterr 12. Ahnsahnghong states that Jesus is the only name where salvation is found. Even in the end times. If you truly believe that Ahnsahnghong is god then you better believe him when he tells you something. By the way, even if you find out that Ahn is not god the Bible is still Gods Word and you better pay attention to that.
Who has this book, is what Nick saying true? About Heavenly mother in the last chapter of the book???
I am pretty certain it is a vague sentence which has been interpreted. That is why, while he has retyped a few other sentences, he has not retyped this one.
thanks Emil……..what about this? Simon, Sarah, Renita, Disturbed do you know of this, is this true..
Now i’ll retype a passage straight out of Father’s book:
“Even now, some people are only looking up into the sky, even though the Son of Man has already come in a cloud (in the flesh hiding God’s glory) and is gathering His elect. They only insist that He will come on the actual clouds of the sky, without studying the prophecies, so that they fail to receive Him. Finally, they will fall into destruction.”
Just to be clear bout what KF is asking, I presume she wants to know if it is true that ASH wrote those words. She is not asking whether the description in the book is facts.
Correct me if I'm wrong Kim.
Yes Emil you are correct, I want to know if Ahnsanghong wrote those exact words.
Well seeing as he wrote in Korean …
sorry couldn’t resist
Ill check my book when i get home if noone does first
How does Mother flow from herself?? She is Jerusalem and yet she is also the spring of the water of life which flows from Jerusalem?
Some of these threads need to be merged with the humour thread I guess. ๐
I wish I could upload pictures so I can scan the pages instead of typing them..
Chapter 1: Unsealing the Secret of the Seven Thunders
.. Rev 10:7.. The mystery is the gospel of the new covenant which was announced to the apostles and the prophets of the early Church… Then, who will break the seals and open up what the seven thunders said? The Apostle John wrote: Rev 5:1-6… As it is written, "a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain," the Lamb to come secretly in the name of David in the last days is to break the seven seals and open what the seven thunders said…</>
WRONG! That's not what the Scripture said, The only times the thunders were mentioned were in Rev 10. Rev 5 is a scroll written on both sides. Those verses don't say anything about any thunders. In Rev 6, the Lamb, the one mentioned in Rev 5, begins to open the seals one by one. The WMSCOG doesn't interpret these seals as the commands of the New Cov't but as events that have past [except the 7th].
Thus proving that the scroll with the 7 seals in Rev 5 can't possibly be the 7 thunders in Rev 10 given the 7 thunders are the Feasts and such..
I believe his point is since the bible is sealed and only jesus can open it only jesus can open the seven thunders maybe not but that wad my take
not that it makes tbe seven thunders the feasts
No, the WMSCOG teaches that the 7 Thunders are the Feasts using these verses [and others].
Read Chapter 1. The book says that the 7 Thunders will be revealed by the Lamb who was slained. It says He is worthy of breaking the seals and opening the 7 Thunders. Ash is heavily implying that the scroll that was sealed is the 7 Thunders. Even In Rev 10:8 it speaks of a scroll.. A little scroll that John ate. The WMSCOG links all these things together to say that the Lamb who had been slained, 2CC, will break the 7 Seals aka open the 7 Thunders which are the Feasts.
The gospel of the New Cov't is what the 7 Thunders spoke is what the book says.. "The mystery if the gospel of the new covenant which was announced to the apostles and the prophets of the early Church."
http://usa.watv.org/truth/index.asp
Read under the block where it says The Feasts of God.. It says the 7 Thunders are the Feasts in 3 times.
I don’t think were on the same page sorry ill reread it :/
What version do you have? Mine was published in 2010 [English only version].
Mine is Korean English from 2007
And yes KF that is in my copy.
@ KF, I have no clue. I payed less attention to particulars. All I know is that Zhang and Ahang are not God. ๐
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