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Another failed prediction and another placing the blame on the church members. You haven't made enough oil? What are you all bridesmaids now? Why are you choosing to follow along with this? Haven't you been lied to enough yet? Your turn, tell us why this is anything but another bigger lie to cover up another failure?
oh and when most every ex members from all over the planet been told, heard and know about the same teaching and stuff (they dont know each others if i may add) yet if any wms still dare to say its only a hearsay? wow! i can only say… wow.
They said "we are going to heaven on 2012" in the study of the 6 day creation which is a very long study and they usually say it at the end and also they say it in the Seven Churches Study. I guess now they are going to change their math again for 2018
KC wrote:
hearsay? oh believe me its not a hearsay ๐
really? other religion also judge your faith by how much you pay? gosh simon you mustve been hanging with the wrong religious people then.
yes it is hearsay
KC wrote:
hearsay? oh believe me its not a hearsay ๐
really? other religion also judge your faith by how much you pay? gosh simon you mustve been hanging with the wrong religious people then.
yes it is hearsay
KC wrote:
oh and when most every ex members from all over the planet been told, heard and know about the same teaching and stuff (they dont know each others if i may add) yet if any wms still dare to say its only a hearsay? wow! i can only say… wow.
More hearsay
jellybean wrote:
They said "we are going to heaven on 2012" in the study of the 6 day creation which is a very long study and they usually say it at the end and also they say it in the Seven Churches Study. I guess now they are going to change their math again for 2018
Wasn't part of the 6 day creation study here. Never got to do the seven churches study though
Ahn predicted 2012 a long time ago. This has been explained here:
https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/archives/2012-pamphlet/
The pamphlet is a page out of this book on the NCPCOG site here:
http://www.ncpcog.com/book/bridegroom/bridegroom.html
Who else besides Ahn needs to admit the prediction if the wms believes he is "god"? This would not be considered hearsay. Also, it was documented in the Korean courtcase here:
https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/archives/wmscog-vs-ji-won-tak-court-case/
Also a legal record and therefore not hearsay.
it is hearsay to say church of God said 2012 ncpcog isn’t any more reliable than wmscog
and wms won an appeal on the last one
Sure… A hearsay that everybody have heard and says, who among you former members have been told about that?
and yes, wmscog is as bad as it is, they are just there for you money and nothing more…. no need to sweeten them as something more than just a group crooks, if some here may say that wmscog are more than that, I wonder why they are out then? there must be something that drove you out… and im preety sure its not about conflict of believes, since if so…. you will not join up from the start.
and if… you are still in wms, and not among those who worked there…. a simple test of believe, just claim poverty… I dare you to proof the hearsay that wms consider you more than just as a milking cow.
not me
I don’t think you know what hearsay means kc
and they didn’t remotely hassle me when I was broke I was told by deacon 10% of 0 is 0
maybe, [removed for rules] either that or you dont really know about wmscog.
you see, im not here for the attention or see this forum as a field where i can show my skill at bible thumpings, throwing verses nor debating.
I am here just to warn or atelast give a hint to people about what wmscog is all about… i consider what i write here as a way to help others, since i used to help the WRONG people.
now, about some of your points…
1. No koreans in your sion? for 3 years? really simon theres no such thing as a complete non korean sion, never have and never will be… why? do you really really think they would trust a non korean jibsanim or konsanim to handle the cash? i dont think so ๐
2. Your deacon, a jibsanim of wmscog… ever REALLY said that tithing is not necessary? wmscog is all about tithing, unless ofcourse you missed the trade mark chants of tithing as the way God judged the level of your faith, but i dont think anybody would be missed when they "informed" their members about that ๐
oh just in case you still in wms or still have contact with wms and if you personaly dont know what i am saying… just tell them, what i say is what i heard from gwanak ๐
sorry but you are dead wrong in point one no Koreans were at my Zion
as for two that’s not what I said. I said 10% of 0 is 0 which it is.
0*0.10=0
simon darling, is this not your own statement?
"My Zion had ONE girl that could qualify as young pretty much the entire time I was there. And didn't have any Koreans its first three years."
As basic as my english skill probably are, im quite sure you meant that in your sion first 3 years of existance… there was no korean staff involved there… which really… that is something thats quite impossible.
As for the 10% of 0 is 0, ofcourse you are mathematicaly correct, yet does "0" is a nominal that any sion on this planet would accept?
but yes, i do whole heartily suggest anybody who is in wms and had doubt about them, regarding what they are after or whats the real purpose of wms recruiting you… to try… just try using that logic at their own local sion, why i suggested that? Since it would be a sure shot way for you to get casted out from wms, of which would mean that you have saved yourself.
Alright you two, calm down!! LOL Some Zions have a non-Korean deacon and deaconess and no Korean brothers and sisters. The Koreans are sent over to "help" the brothers and sisters and don't usually stay for long. So yes, there can be a Zion with no Koreans, but after a while "mother" sends atleast one Korean over there to speed things up!
not impossible even if rare
as far as the tithing thing it came from the deacon
The koreans are realy not sent to help brother and sisters but to keep a good watch on the operation my group leader always use to tell me when the koreans sit in sion to have lunch or dinner you will see them gosipping about their group members, for eg-who borrowed money from whom,what are peoples salaries ,who is not putting proper amount of thites, which husband drinks at home etc. regarding the money part they never let indians get near it they can collect but not count it is done in close rooms,i know a decan years back went to lanavala to start a zion on his own beliving that the end was near .He went on his own and was fired for doing such a thing without telling the head or the assemble,then he sent a email to the asseble and he was given special permesion to do so, all koreans were very angry with him because he was a very sturbon person. but slowly the koreans realaised that the members were many about 100 in years time and there was no accont of the tites when they questioned him he said he use to pay the rent electric bill etc,So they called him to korea cunningly praised him and sent two korean sisters to keep watch over him,The sister found it hard to keep watch with this charecter they reported back and then he was told to marry a korean at the same time transfered to pune and congratulated for the good job ,even thou he was divoced married to an indian he was allowed to marry that koren lady, but unfortunately this korean lady also left him and went back to korea. during this process after the korean lady going many other korens have come and gone they have their people to count their money they collect today he heads the church in amhed nagar but has korens with him to keep watch over him no doubt they gave him a title of chandosanim and said he will be a pastor soon.they praise him for the oil he has so please tell me what oil are they talking about.
The one I used to participate that math about 10% of 0= 0 does not work. When you tell them you are not currently working they tell you then that how are you paying your phone bills, your rent, your food, transportation and all those thinks that we need in order to live in society and if you tell them something like "I live with my parents and they provide everything for me" they would tell you well from what you receive from your parents a tenth belongs to God. This was not my case because I did had a job all the time I was there however this was the case of other members. Even if you are receiving unnemployment benefits you have to give a tenth in the church I was attending of your unnemployment benefits…
income isn’t needed to pay bills rent etc anyways
I was told never tithe over ten percent
Brown and blue envelopes for anything more lol
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